Today’s episode is a real eye-opener. I’m sitting down with Roman Bystrianyk, co-author of Dissolving Illusions, and we’re diving into some seriously uncomfortable truths about the Industrial Revolution. We’ve all heard about how vaccines saved the day, right? Well, Roman’s here to flip that narrative. We talk about the grim reality of life back then—think poor sanitation, awful working conditions, and unhealthy living.

Roman breaks it down: it wasn’t vaccines that dropped those mortality rates, it was public health improvements, like better living conditions, cleaner water, and, yep, hygiene. We also unpack the history of vaccines, how people fought back against mandatory shots, and how, shocker, a lot of the time they didn’t work the way we were told.

This episode is a wake-up call, and trust me, it’ll make you rethink a lot of what you thought you knew about health, medicine, and how we got here today. And that's not all-- stay tuned for part II, dropping next Thursday.

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