DIVE Beyond Sport

By Yona Knight Wisdom & Freddie WoodwardSports Health & Fitness Mental Health Education Self-Improvement

DIVE Beyond Sport episodes

January 16 The Providential Plan with Jamie Jones-Buchanan | DIVE Ep.15 Part 2
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In this episode of Dive Beyond Sport, Jamie Jones-Buchanan, known as JJB, delves into his life story, from growing up in West Leeds to his remarkable career with the Leeds Rhinos. He shares insights into the challenges and successes of his rugby journey, discussing the influence of faith, leadership, and team culture, especially during the Rhinos' golden era. JJB explores his evolution from a player to a mentor and leader, offering a glimpse into his future aspirations for community impact and personal growth. The conversation also touches on the
significance of emotional intelligence, the importance of community, and the transformative power of sport.
Show Notes
• How does a one-club rugby league legend build identity, purpose, and
belonging beyond elite performance.
• What can leaders in sport, business, and life learn from the Leeds
Rhinos’ Golden Generation and their culture of care.
• How do resilience, sacrifice, and shared values create sustained
success over a decade of high-performance rugby league.
• What does true leadership look like when it’s about empowering others
rather than seeking control or credit.
• How can sport act as a vehicle for social mobility, community impact,
and long-term change beyond winning trophies.
• What role do faith, values, and belief play in navigating pressure,
adversity, and life after professional sport.
• How do elite teams balance ambition, expectation, and realism without
losing joy, connection, or humanity.
• What happens when athletes redefine success away from medals and
results toward meaning, service, and legacy.
• How can creating the right environment unlock human potential in
sport, education, and society.
• What can we all learn from Jamie Jones-Buchanan’s journey about
purpose, leadership, and building something bigger than ourselves.
Chapters
00:00 The Moment That Defined JJB
00:16 Influence of Women and Early Life
01:20 Sport as a Vehicle for Social Mobility
03:07 Women in Rugby and Equality in Sports
05:01 The Meaning of Life and Social Justice
08:57 Challenges in the Education System
13:37 The 2015 Treble-Winning Season
21:23 The Importance of Teamwork and Survival
25:08 JJB's Vision for the Future
29:11 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Guest Pick:
Book: Atomic Habits — James Clear
Link (paperback): ⁠https://amzn.to/4phThR8⁠

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athlete stories, mindset, and motivation.
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34 min
January 13 The Providential Plan with Jamie Jones-Buchanan | DIVE Ep.15 Part 1
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In this episode of Dive Beyond Sport, Jamie Jones-Buchanan, known as JJB, delves into his life story, from growing up in West Leeds to his remarkable career with the Leeds Rhinos. He shares insights into the challenges and successes of his rugby journey, discussing the influence of faith, leadership, and team culture, especially during the Rhinos' golden era. JJB explores his evolution from a player to a mentor and leader, offering a glimpse into his future aspirations for community impact and personal growth. The conversation also touches on the
significance of emotional intelligence, the importance of community, and the transformative power of sport.
Show Notes
• How does a one-club rugby league legend build identity, purpose, and
belonging beyond elite performance.
• What can leaders in sport, business, and life learn from the Leeds
Rhinos’ Golden Generation and their culture of care.
• How do resilience, sacrifice, and shared values create sustained
success over a decade of high-performance rugby league.
• What does true leadership look like when it’s about empowering others
rather than seeking control or credit.
• How can sport act as a vehicle for social mobility, community impact,
and long-term change beyond winning trophies.
• What role do faith, values, and belief play in navigating pressure,
adversity, and life after professional sport.
• How do elite teams balance ambition, expectation, and realism without
losing joy, connection, or humanity.
• What happens when athletes redefine success away from medals and
results toward meaning, service, and legacy.
• How can creating the right environment unlock human potential in
sport, education, and society.
• What can we all learn from Jamie Jones-Buchanan’s journey about
purpose, leadership, and building something bigger than ourselves.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:13 Jamie's Rugby League Journey
01:48 The Golden Generation and Leadership
03:28 Impact of Leeds Rhinos on Jamie's Life
05:22 Kevin Sinfield's Influence and Leadership
12:30 Coaching and Team Dynamics
20:53 Transition from Player to Mentor
22:00 Broader Impact of Sport and Community
27:57 Balancing Results and Wellbeing in Sport
31:27 Concussion in Rugby and Player Welfare
Guest Pick:
Book: Atomic Habits — James Clear
Link (paperback): https://amzn.to/4phThR8

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qualifying purchases made through the links above. This comes at no
extra cost to you and helps support the podcast.
Subscribe to DIVE Beyond Sport Podcast for weekly episodes diving into
athlete stories, mindset, and motivation.
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38 min
January 09 Quadzilla with Jack Laugher | DIVE Ep.14 Part 2
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In this episode of Dive Beyond Sport, we chat with Jack Laugher, one of
Britain’s most decorated divers, about his incredible journey from a
young aspiring athlete to Olympic Gold medalist. Jack opens up about the
challenges, setbacks, and pressures he faced along the way, including
the London 2012 Olympics, and how he bounced back to achieve his dream
at Rio 2016. He shares insights on resilience, mindset, and the
importance of a strong support system, while reflecting on the pivotal
moments that shaped his diving career. This episode offers an inspiring
and in-depth look at the highs and lows of elite sport, making it a
must-listen for athletes, sports fans, and anyone striving for
excellence.
Show Notes
• What happens when childhood passion turns into elite performance under
the brightest lights in sport.
• How does a young athlete handle being “ahead of the pack” while
growing up alongside fierce competition.
• What role do early setbacks, injuries, and being held back play in
building long-term excellence.
• How does failure on the biggest stage shape resilience, perspective,
and future success.
• What does it take to mentally recover after public disappointment and
rebuild belief from the ground up.
• How can athletes learn to control external noise, expectations, and
the pressure of public perception.
• What changes when success brings responsibility, identity, and the
weight of expectations rather than freedom.
• How does staying present become a competitive advantage when medals,
legacy, and reputation are on the line.
• What is the true value of an Olympic gold medal when viewed years
later through experience and reflection.
• How can athletes redefine success beyond outcomes, using sport as a
vehicle for growth, meaning, and connection.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:14 Reflecting on Olympic Gold
01:30 The Journey and the Experience
02:47 Personal Reflections and Growth
07:32 The Rio Anecdote
15:30 The Power of Mindset
22:16 Navigating Pressure and Identity
29:24 Evolving as an Athlete
38:51 Final Thoughts and Farewell
Guest Picks:
Book 1: The Chimp Paradox — Prof. Steve Peters
Link (paperback): https://amzn.to/482XhOp
Book 2: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F — Mark Manson
Link (paperback): https://amzn.to/47TMkyo

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qualifying purchases made through the links above. This comes at no
extra cost to you and helps support the podcast.
Subscribe to DIVE Beyond Sport Podcast for weekly episodes diving into
athlete stories, mindset, and motivation.
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Giorgio Minisini:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/giorgiominisini_ ⁠
Freddie Woodward: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/freddie_woodward⁠⁠
Yona Knight-Wisdom: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/yonakw

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45 min
January 06 Quadzilla with Jack Laugher | DIVE Ep.14 Part 1
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In this episode of Dive Beyond Sport, we chat with Jack Laugher, one of
Britain’s most decorated divers, about his incredible journey from a
young aspiring athlete to Olympic Gold medalist. Jack opens up about the
challenges, setbacks, and pressures he faced along the way, including
the London 2012 Olympics, and how he bounced back to achieve his dream
at Rio 2016. He shares insights on resilience, mindset, and the
importance of a strong support system, while reflecting on the pivotal
moments that shaped his diving career. This episode offers an inspiring
and in-depth look at the highs and lows of elite sport, making it a
must-listen for athletes, sports fans, and anyone striving for
excellence.
Show Notes
• What happens when childhood passion turns into elite performance under
the brightest lights in sport.
• How does a young athlete handle being “ahead of the pack” while
growing up alongside fierce competition.
• What role do early setbacks, injuries, and being held back play in
building long-term excellence.
• How does failure on the biggest stage shape resilience, perspective,
and future success.
• What does it take to mentally recover after public disappointment and
rebuild belief from the ground up.
• How can athletes learn to control external noise, expectations, and
the pressure of public perception.
• What changes when success brings responsibility, identity, and the
weight of expectations rather than freedom.
• How does staying present become a competitive advantage when medals,
legacy, and reputation are on the line.
• What is the true value of an Olympic gold medal when viewed years
later through experience and reflection.
• How can athletes redefine success beyond outcomes, using sport as a
vehicle for growth, meaning, and connection.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:29 Jack Laugher's Diving Journey
01:32 Early Success and Challenges
05:59 Influences and Inspirations
09:01 The Turning Point: Breaking an Arm
17:56 Lessons from London 2012
26:26 Bouncing Back: The Road to Rio
34:48 Reflections and Moving Forward
Guest Picks:
Book 1: The Chimp Paradox — Prof. Steve Peters
Link (paperback): https://amzn.to/482XhOp
Book 2: The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F — Mark Manson
Link (paperback): https://amzn.to/47TMkyo

Disclaimer: As an Amazon Associate, we may earn a small commission from
qualifying purchases made through the links above. This comes at no
extra cost to you and helps support the podcast.
Subscribe to DIVE Beyond Sport Podcast for weekly episodes diving into
athlete stories, mindset, and motivation.
Listen on Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dive-beyond-sport/id1832706678⁠⁠
Listen on Spotify: ⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/67pX07qo2f6AZTxOERShpn?si=95b0803ce82642a7⁠⁠

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Giorgio Minisini:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/giorgiominisini_ ⁠
Freddie Woodward: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/freddie_woodward⁠⁠
Yona Knight-Wisdom: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/yonakw

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39 min
December 19, 2025 A Lot Of Weird Choices with Giorgio Minisini | DIVE Ep.13 Part 2
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In this inspiring episode of Dive Beyond Sport, Giorgio Minisini discusses his trailblazing journey in the world of artistic swimming, a sport traditionally dominated by women. Through perseverance and determination, Giorgio broke stereotypes and became one of the first men to compete and win at the World Championships. He shares insights into his motivations, the challenges faced, and the importance of being open to opportunities. Giorgio also reflects on his broader impact in the sport, his work with athletes with cognitive disabilities, and his continued advocacy for male inclusion in artistic swimming. His story is one of resilience, innovation, and the pursuit of passion against all odds.
Show Notes
• What it takes to become a male artistic swimmer and break gender
barriers in elite competitive sport.
• How Giorgio Minisini went from exclusion to world champion in artistic
swimming through resilience and self-belief.
• Why artistic swimming is redefining masculinity, creativity, and
athletic performance for men worldwide.
• How identity, stereotypes, and prejudice shape the mental health
journey of elite athletes.
• What the difference is between harmonious passion and obsessive
passion in high-performance sport and Olympic preparation.
• How winning world championships changed Giorgio’s understanding of
success, purpose, and fulfillment beyond medals.
• Why inclusion in artistic swimming is essential for the future growth
of the sport and Olympic evolution.
• How visibility and representation are opening doors for the next
generation of male artistic swimmers.
• What athletes can learn about burnout, motivation, and longevity from
stepping away at the right time.
• How values, community impact, and giving back create a lasting legacy
beyond titles and podium finishes.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:15 Finding Purpose and Overcoming Fear
02:05 The Reality of Winning and Growing Up
05:02 Challenges and Triumphs in Competitive Swimming
08:56 Inspiring the Next Generation
14:28 The Future of Male Artistic Swimming
25:44 Final Thoughts and Inspirational Message
Guest Pick:
Book: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Link (paperback): ⁠https://amzn.to/3X15YUt⁠

Disclaimer: As an Amazon Associate, we may earn a small commission from
qualifying purchases made through the links above. This comes at no
extra cost to you and helps support the podcast.
Subscribe to DIVE Beyond Sport Podcast for weekly episodes diving into
athlete stories, mindset, and motivation.
Listen on Apple Podcasts: ⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dive-beyond-sport/id1832706678⁠⁠
Listen on Spotify: ⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/67pX07qo2f6AZTxOERShpn?si=95b0803ce82642a7⁠⁠

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YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@DIVEBeyondSportPod⁠⁠

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Giorgio Minisini:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/giorgiominisini_ ⁠
Freddie Woodward: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/freddie_woodward⁠⁠
Yona Knight-Wisdom: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/yonakw

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32 min
December 16, 2025 A Lot Of Weird Choices with Giorgio Minisini | DIVE Ep.13 Part 1
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exclusive clips.
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In this inspiring episode of Dive Beyond Sport, Giorgio Minisini discusses his trailblazing journey in the world of artistic swimming, a sport traditionally dominated by women. Through perseverance and determination, Giorgio broke stereotypes and became one of the first men to compete and win at the World Championships. He shares insights into his motivations, the challenges faced, and the importance of being open to opportunities. Giorgio also reflects on his broader impact in the sport, his work with athletes with cognitive disabilities, and his continued advocacy for male inclusion in artistic swimming. His story is one of resilience, innovation, and the pursuit of passion against all odds.
Show Notes
• What it takes to become a male artistic swimmer and break gender
barriers in elite competitive sport.
• How Giorgio Minisini went from exclusion to world champion in artistic
swimming through resilience and self-belief.
• Why artistic swimming is redefining masculinity, creativity, and
athletic performance for men worldwide.
• How identity, stereotypes, and prejudice shape the mental health
journey of elite athletes.
• What the difference is between harmonious passion and obsessive
passion in high-performance sport and Olympic preparation.
• How winning world championships changed Giorgio’s understanding of
success, purpose, and fulfillment beyond medals.
• Why inclusion in artistic swimming is essential for the future growth
of the sport and Olympic evolution.
• How visibility and representation are opening doors for the next
generation of male artistic swimmers.
• What athletes can learn about burnout, motivation, and longevity from
stepping away at the right time.
• How values, community impact, and giving back create a lasting legacy
beyond titles and podium finishes.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:16 Giorgio's Journey in Sport
01:43 Identity and Challenges
04:47 Family Influence and Early Experiences
07:14 Proving People Wrong
08:13 Artistic Swimming and Inspirations
13:15 Olympic Dreams and Realities
15:06 Passion and Motivation
22:31 Advice for Young Athletes
28:32 Giving Back and Finding Meaning
33:06 Concluding Thoughts
Guest Pick:Book: The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Link (paperback): https://amzn.to/3X15YUt

Disclaimer: As an Amazon Associate, we may earn a small commission from
qualifying purchases made through the links above. This comes at no
extra cost to you and helps support the podcast.
Subscribe to DIVE Beyond Sport Podcast for weekly episodes diving into
athlete stories, mindset, and motivation.
Listen on Apple Podcasts: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dive-beyond-sport/id1832706678⁠
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Giorgio Minisini: https://www.instagram.com/giorgiominisini_
Freddie Woodward: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/freddie_woodward⁠
Yona Knight-Wisdom: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/yonakw

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39 min
December 12, 2025 No Risk No Story with Heather Fisher | DIVE Ep.12 Part 2
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In this engaging episode of Dive Beyond Sport, hosts welcome Heather Fisher, a celebrated rugby World Cup winner, Olympian, and Commonwealth Games medalist. Heather shares her elevator pitch, reflecting on her illustrious career in rugby and bobsleigh, and her journey through retirement at 38. The discussion covers her thoughts on the evolution of women's sports, particularly rugby, and the personal challenges she's faced, including losing her hair to alopecia. Heather delves into the identity struggles athletes often encounter post-retirement and emphasizes the importance of leaving a legacy. She also candidly discusses her transition into post-sport life, her confrontation with her own identity, and the values that drive her. Towards the end, the conversation touches on the distinct experiences of switching from fifteens to sevens rugby and her true passion for sevens. Join this heartfelt recount of resilience, adaptation, and the relentless pursuit of purpose beyond the field.
Show Notes
• How does an elite athlete rebuild identity after stepping away from
the sport they’ve known their whole life.
• What does resilience truly mean when the cameras are off and the
stadiums are empty.
• How can athletes navigate the emotional chaos of transitions,
reinvention, and uncertainty.
• What happens when your body changes, your career shifts, and your
sense of self is tested.
• How do you separate your worth from medals, achievements, and public
expectations.
• What does authenticity look like for someone who’s lived in a
high-performance environment for decades.
• How do you carry the lessons of sport into real life, work,
relationships, and identity.
• What are the hidden mental battles that elite athletes face long after
competition ends.
• How can vulnerability become an athlete’s greatest competitive
advantage.
• What can we learn from Heather’s journey about defining success beyond
performance.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:10 Transitioning Between Rugby Formats
01:24 Choosing Between Sevens and Fifteens
02:47 The Journey to the Olympics
03:36 Diving into Different Sports
04:35 Adapting and Overcoming Challenges
07:33 Life After Rugby
11:03 Finding New Passions and Purpose
15:22 The Struggles of Transition
24:02 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Heather Fisher: https://www.instagram.com/heatherfish29⁠
Freddie Woodward: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/freddie_woodward⁠
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29 min
December 09, 2025 No Risk No Story with Heather Fisher | DIVE Ep.12 Part 1
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In this engaging episode of Dive Beyond Sport, hosts welcome Heather Fisher, a celebrated rugby World Cup winner, Olympian, and Commonwealth Games medalist. Heather shares her elevator pitch, reflecting on her illustrious career in rugby and bobsleigh, and her journey through retirement at 38. The discussion covers her thoughts on the evolution of women's sports, particularly rugby, and the personal challenges she's faced, including losing her hair to alopecia. Heather delves into the identity struggles athletes often encounter post-retirement and emphasizes the importance of leaving a legacy. She also candidly discusses her transition into post-sport life, her confrontation with her own identity, and the values that drive her. Towards the end, the conversation touches on the distinct experiences of switching from fifteens to sevens rugby and her true passion for sevens. Join this heartfelt recount of resilience, adaptation, and the relentless pursuit of purpose beyond the field.
Show Notes
• How does an elite athlete rebuild identity after stepping away from
the sport they’ve known their whole life.
• What does resilience truly mean when the cameras are off and the
stadiums are empty.
• How can athletes navigate the emotional chaos of transitions,
reinvention, and uncertainty.
• What happens when your body changes, your career shifts, and your
sense of self is tested.
• How do you separate your worth from medals, achievements, and public
expectations.
• What does authenticity look like for someone who’s lived in a
high-performance environment for decades.
• How do you carry the lessons of sport into real life, work,
relationships, and identity.
• What are the hidden mental battles that elite athletes face long after
competition ends.
• How can vulnerability become an athlete’s greatest competitive
advantage.
• What can we learn from Heather’s journey about defining success beyond
performance.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:20 Heather Fisher's Athletic Journey
00:52 Reflecting on Rugby World Cup and Career Transitions
02:22 Identity and Legacy Post-Retirement
03:38 Challenges of Transitioning from Sport
04:59 The Importance of Ownership and Acceptance
05:47 Signs of Retirement and Life After Sport
06:44 Struggles with Identity and Purpose
08:23 Adjusting to Life Beyond Athletics
17:27 Maintaining Physical Fitness Post-Retirement
20:22 Overcoming Major Injuries
27:13 Living by Values and Making Impact
Subscribe to DIVE Beyond Sport Podcast for weekly episodes diving into athlete stories, mindset, and motivation.
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YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@DIVEBeyondSportPod⁠

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Heather Fisher: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/heatherfish29⁠⁠⁠⁠
Freddie Woodward: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/freddie_woodward⁠⁠
Yona Knight-Wisdom: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/yonakw⁠

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34 min
December 05, 2025 Eye of the Tiger (On Repeat) with Gary Smith | DIVE Ep.11 Part 2
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In this episode of Dive Beyond Sports, hosts Freddie Woodward and Yona
Knight-Wisdom welcome Gary Smith, a former Olympic trampolinist and
CIRQUE performer. Gary shares his journey from recreational trampolining
to competing at the 2004 Athens Olympics and later joining Cirque du
Soleil. He reflects on his career highlights, including his meticulous
preparation for the Olympics, the thrill of performing with CIRQUE, and
his current role in sports development. Gary also provides insights into
his coaching philosophy, emphasizing the importance of consistency,
preparation, and understanding athlete needs. The discussion touches on
the transformative power of sport, the significance of high-performance
environments, and the value of enjoyment and ambition in achieving
success.
Show Notes
• What does it take to turn a recreational trampoline hobby into an
Olympic journey.
• How does competing once a year compare to performing ten times a week
in Cirque du Soleil.
• What mindset shifts are needed when transitioning from elite athlete
to full-time performer.
• How did Gary discover his Olympic identity long before trampoline
became an Olympic sport.
• What does true preparation look like when everything comes down to a
20-second routine.
• How did Cirque du Soleil shape Gary’s understanding of teamwork,
confidence, and stage presence.
• What can athletes learn from performers about handling pressure and
staying consistent.
• How did Gary bring lessons from the stage back into high-performance
coaching for Team GB.
• What surprising challenges come with returning to coach a sport that
has evolved dramatically.
• How does Gary define excellence now—across being a father, coach,
former Olympian, and performer.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:14 The Impact of Lottery Funding on Trampolining
02:54 Transition to CIR and Showbiz
05:30 Experiences in Show Creation and Performance
13:38 Return to Coaching and Evolution of Trampolining
18:05 Reflecting on Coaching Journeys
19:20 Challenges and Pressures in Coaching
21:23 Insights from Top Athletes
23:48 Peak Performance Moments
27:41 Preparation and Adaptability
29:35 Defining Excellence
32:02 Supporting Athletes as a Coach
34:03 The Complexity of Trampolining
35:54 Final Thoughts and Reflections
Guest Picks:
Book #1: The Second Set of Eyes – Cody Royle
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Book #2: A Golden Age - Steve Redgrave (Autobiography)
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December 02, 2025 Eye of the Tiger (On Repeat) with Gary Smith | DIVE Ep.11 Part 1
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exclusive clips.
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In this episode of Dive Beyond Sports, hosts Freddie Woodward and Yona
Knight-Wisdom welcome Gary Smith, a former Olympic trampolinist and
CIRQUE performer. Gary shares his journey from recreational trampolining
to competing at the 2004 Athens Olympics and later joining Cirque du
Soleil. He reflects on his career highlights, including his meticulous
preparation for the Olympics, the thrill of performing with CIRQUE, and
his current role in sports development. Gary also provides insights into
his coaching philosophy, emphasizing the importance of consistency,
preparation, and understanding athlete needs. The discussion touches on
the transformative power of sport, the significance of high-performance
environments, and the value of enjoyment and ambition in achieving
success.
Show Notes
• What does it take to turn a recreational trampoline hobby into an
Olympic journey.
• How does competing once a year compare to performing ten times a week
in Cirque du Soleil.
• What mindset shifts are needed when transitioning from elite athlete
to full-time performer.
• How did Gary discover his Olympic identity long before trampoline
became an Olympic sport.
• What does true preparation look like when everything comes down to a
20-second routine.
• How did Cirque du Soleil shape Gary’s understanding of teamwork,
confidence, and stage presence.
• What can athletes learn from performers about handling pressure and
staying consistent.
• How did Gary bring lessons from the stage back into high-performance
coaching for Team GB.
• What surprising challenges come with returning to coach a sport that
has evolved dramatically.
• How does Gary define excellence now—across being a father, coach,
former Olympian, and performer.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcoming the Guest
00:48 Gary's Journey in Trampolining
02:07 The Impact of Sports on Life
02:58 Transition to Performance and Coaching
05:32 Challenges and Mindset in Cirque du Soleil
08:46 Olympic Aspirations and Achievements
14:57 Memorable Moments from the Olympics
Guest Picks:
Book #1: The Second Set of Eyes – Cody Royle
Link (paperback): https://amzn.to/4oZh5Jt
Book #2: A Golden Age - Steve Redgrave (Autobiography)
Link (paperback): https://amzn.to/3Locn9z

Disclaimer: As an Amazon Associate, we may earn a small commission from
qualifying purchases made through the links above. This comes at no
extra cost to you and helps support the podcast.
Subscribe to DIVE Beyond Sport Podcast for weekly episodes diving into
athlete stories, mindset, and motivation.
Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/dive-beyond-sport/id1832706678
Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/67pX07qo2f6AZTxOERShpn?si=95b0803ce82642a7

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Gary Smith: https://www.instagram.com/gsmith2209
Freddie Woodward: https://www.instagram.com/freddie_woodward
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