Elaborate is coming back! But first, Jake is sitting down solo on his birthday to catch up and share some thoughts on being dark for all this time, the pandemic and what its highlighted of his shortcomings and strengths, getting older and his current journey of rediscovery, what he's learning about letting go of complete control, perfectionism and its firm and unrelenting grasp around him, the release of his feature film Pinch, music, bikes, comedy, and much much more.

Next week Alex Hooper from Comedy Central's Roast Battle and America's Got Talent will be "on the couch" and you don't want to miss it. Check out www.DragonWagonShop.com for awesome Elaborate shirts and mugs!

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