Don Van Natta, investigative reporter for ESPN The Magazine and ESPN.com, on the future of Roger Goodell as NFL commissioner, on why Goodell empathizes with the players in the current rift with owners about the national anthem, on why this is a watershed moment for the league, and how hard it is to dig for information among NFL owners.

Steve Palazzolo, football analyst for inside-football site Pro Football Focus, on his top-rated quarterback for the 2018 NFL Draft (it’s a surprise), on how overrated this class of quarterbacks is, and why he has problems with both presumptive high first-round picks, Josh Rosen and Sam Darnold.