Pastor Doug is my dude! I learned about him from Hector Martinez and Sarah Kinzer, who had him on their podcast: The Pocket Pulpit. Doug is a Pastor's Pastor in more ways than one. Not only is he a fantastic representative of what it means to be a true shepherd of the people on their spiritual journey, he also devotes a lot of time caring for those in ministry... especially pastors. We could all use a friend like Doug.

He keeps it real about his own struggles and the challenges of leading a church in my conversation with him. It was the first, but it won't be the last.

Check out Doug at https://www.fairlyspiritual.org/

You can continue the conversation from this episode or any other episode at our Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/betterontheinside