Dr Kirstin Ferguson AM FAICD is an author, columnist, and company director. She’s the former Acting Chair and Deputy Chair of the ABC, and currently on the boards of PEXA and Envato. We talk about leadership lessons from Kirstin’s military career, her first director positions and the importance of feedback in the boardroom. Plus, we discuss Kirstin’s new award-winning and best-selling book “Head and Heart: The Art of Modern Leadership.” What qualities do modern leaders need? Which attributes should boards look for when they’re picking their next CEO? And what can directors learn from world leaders like Jacinda Ardern and Volodymyr Zelensky?