In this raw and deeply human conversation, Zac and Jay sit down with former MLB player and mental health advocate Drew Robinson—someone whose story is almost too unbelievable to be true. In 2020, Drew survived a suicide attempt that should have ended his life. Instead, it marked the beginning of a new one.

Drew walks us through the silent buildup to that night: the injury that ended his season, the breakup that broke his heart, the isolation of the pandemic—and how all of it slowly pushed him toward the edge. He speaks with powerful clarity about what it’s like to wear a smile in public while fighting a war inside your head, and what happens when you no longer want to fight.

But this episode is not about tragedy. It’s about survival. It's about the quiet power of choosing to stay, the radical act of asking for help, and the ongoing work of healing.

We talk about therapy, journaling, inner child work, and the myth of “being enough.” We explore what it means to be a man in a culture that doesn't let men feel. And we confront the stigma around suicide head-on.

Drew’s story is heartbreaking, courageous, and ultimately, life-affirming. If you or someone you love is struggling, this conversation might be the lifeline you didn’t know you needed.

As Drew says, “People would rather hear from you than about you.”

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