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By Jeff Tiberii, Leoneda IngeNews

Due South episodes

July 14 NC in the conversation for Major League Baseball expansion. Plus, our state's long baseball history
North Carolina in the conversation for Major League Baseball expansionAs Major League Baseball runs toward home plate with expansion, North Carolina is in the national conversation for getting a team. What would it take to attract a major-league team in terms of money, demographics, land availability, and a good team name? Jeff Tiberii asks two experts who have been crunching the numbers.
Michael Walden, economist, NC State University
Lou Pascucci, co-founder of MLB Raleigh/MLB 2 NC

History of baseball in North CarolinaNorth Carolina’s history with baseball is rooted deep like a longleaf pine — from stick-and-ball games in colonial times to players that made history, and how the state was the home of the minor leagues. We explore baseball stories and players that most folks don’t know about.
Marshal Lamm, curator, North Carolina Baseball Museum
Tony Riggsbee, baseball historian and Durham Bulls PA announcer

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July 13 Durham's longest-running Black owned restaurant; John T. Edge unpacks his family history; The story of pimiento cheese
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Checking in with historic Durham landmark The Chicken Hut
Last year it was recognized as a local historic landmark by the Durham City Council. And how the Chicken Hut fits into Durham history as host to famous and influential Civil Rights leaders.
Tre Tapp, second-generation owner of The Chicken Hut
*A version of this segment first aired on November 10, 2025

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John T. Edge searches for home, after trying to find it in Southern food
A new memoir from the southern food historian delves into the personal. It’s about the stories, and the lies, he was told as a white boy growing up in Georgia — in the 1960s and 70s.
John T. Edge, is author of the memoir House of Smoke: A Southerner goes searching for home. Edge helped found the Southern Foodways Alliance, and is the author of The Potlikker Papers: A Food History of the Modern South. He also writes and hosts the television show TrueSouth, and writes a column for Garden & Gun.
*This segment first aired on October 21, 2025

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The Broadside: The strange story of pimento cheese
Pimento cheese, aka Carolina caviar, is as synonymous with Southern food culture as sweet tea and fried chicken. But the origin story of this spreadable cheddar cheese and pimento pepper dish is much more complicated and a lot less Southern than you might think.
Vivian Howard, chef, restauranteur and PBS host
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July 10 NC News Roundup: NC finally has a budget; Raleigh considers youth curfew; dangerous heat and storms
On this week’s North Carolina News Roundup...Gov. Josh Stein signs a $34 billion state budget after a year of negotiations and vetoes a bill that bans camping on public property. Meanwhile, the City of Raleigh considers a curfew after violence broke out at a ‘teen takeover.’ Due South host Jeff Tiberii and a panel of local journalists provide context and analysis from those and other stories from the week.
Dawn Vaughan, Capitol Bureau Chief for The News & Observer
Mary Helen Moore, reporter for Axios Raleigh
Bryan Anderson, Statewide Politics Reporter for The Assembly and creator of the “Anderson Alerts” newsletter
Reuben Jones, Washington reporter covering North Carolina for Spectrum News
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July 09 'The Art of Saving Democracy' with NC artist Beverly McIver. Plus, The Sistering performs from their latest album.
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Renowned artist Beverly McIver discusses “The Art of Saving Democracy”
Duke professor and artist Beverly McIver has made a career of political expression in art practice. She joins Due South to discuss her collaboration on a new project called ‘The Art of Saving Democracy.’
Beverly McIver, visual artist and painter

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The Sistering celebrates wisdom, grace and friendship
Jazz-soul supergroup The Sistering joins Due South to discuss how they joined solo-artist forces to form a collective that pays powerful tribute to sisterhood.
Lenora Zinzalai Helm, Nnenna Freelon, Kate McGarry, Lois DeLoatch, founding members of The Sistering and Keith Ganz, accompanist
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July 08 What a new immigration enforcement law means for North Carolina. The voting rights legacy of Nancy Cherry Bazemore
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What a new immigration enforcement law means for North Carolina
WUNC News reporter Aaron Sánchez-Guerra tells Jeff Tiberii about his latest reporting on a new immigration enforcement bill — Senate Bill 153, referred to as the "North Carolina Border Protection Act" — that became law after state Republicans’ override of Governor Josh Stein’s veto.
Aaron Sánchez-Guerra, Race, Class & Communities Reporter, WUNC News
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The voting rights legacy of Nancy Cherry Bazemore
A new North Carolina Highway Historical Marker commemorates the Bazemore v. Bertie County Board of Elections court case and honors the woman who made it happen.
Nancy Cherry Bazemore stood up against voter disenfranchisement and North Carolina’s voting literacy test in the early 1960s.
Leoneda Inge talks with the man behind the marker, and with a daughter and two granddaughters of Nancy Cherry Bazemore about Bazemore’s battle against voter suppression, how her court case shaped North Carolina voting history and how it resonates today.
State Representative Rodney Pierce (D-District 27), educator and the applicant for the North Carolina Highway Historical Marker commemorating the Bazemore v. Bertie County Board of Elections court case
Mrs. Alice Bazemore Clark, daughter of Nancy Cherry Bazemore
Dr. Inger Swimpson, granddaughter of Nancy Cherry Bazemore
Mrs. Erica Bazemore Williams, granddaughter of Nancy Cherry Bazemore
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July 07 From PFAS to Helene recovery, DEQ Secretary Reid Wilson on why his ‘hard’ job is worth it.
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From PFAS to Helene recovery, DEQ Secretary Reid Wilson on why his ‘hard’ job is worth it
Leoneda Inge talks with Department of Environmental Quality Secretary Reid Wilson about the department's approach to PFAS contamination in our rivers and drinking water, repairing damaged water infrastructure after Tropical Storm Helene, environmental justice and more.
Reid Wilson, Secretary of the North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ)
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Chasing 'blue ghosts' in the Southern Appalachians
Deep in the mountains of Southern Appalachia, one firefly species gives off a steady blue glow instead of the familiar yellow blink most of us know. These insects, colloquially called “blue ghosts,” are quite elusive — to the extent that many locals have never spotted them.
Researcher Dr. Jennifer Frick-Ruppert, first to publish scientific work on their biology, describes their rediscovery, rumors about their origin (hint: chemical spills and elves) and what's putting them at risk today, from habitat loss to the growing crowds drawn by their popularity.
Dr. Jennifer Frick-Ruppert, Vice President of Academic Affairs and Dean of the Faculty, Dalton Professor of Biology and Environmental Science, Brevard College
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July 06 Why Avett Brothers musician Bob Crawford thinks American history echoes into the present
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The Avett Brothers’ bassist on why he got into history
Bob Crawford might be best known for his music, but his podcast American History Hotline and book on John Quincy Adams might change that. Bob speaks with Jeff Tiberii about his work and life.
Bob Crawford, bassist for The Avett Brothers, host of the iHeart original podcast American History Hotline and author of the book America's Founding Son.
A version of this conversation originally aired in August 2025.

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Bob Crawford shares from his new book about John Quincy Adams
Crawford speaks with Leoneda Inge about his biography on John Quincy Adams, and the correlations he sees from early American history to our current political moment.
Bob Crawford, bassist for The Avett Brothers, host of the iHeart original podcast, American History Hotline and author of the book, America's Founding Son.
A version of this conversation originally aired in March 2026.
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July 03 Mecklenburg County’s own Declaration of Independence? Plus, 'New Americans in North Carolina' oral history project
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Mecklenburg County’s own Declaration of Independence?
May 20, 1775, is a date you may recognize from the North Carolina state flag. It represents what was supposedly the first declaration of independence made by any of the 13 colonies involved in the American Revolution. That date was added more than a century ago, but its authenticity was first contested by Thomas Jefferson and John Adams. This conversation originally aired on May 20, 2025.
Scott Syfert, author of ‘The First Declaration of Independence? The Disputed History of the Mecklenburg Declaration of Independence of May 20, 1775'
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‘We (The People of The United States)’
As the United States turns 250 years old, a new book of poetry pays tribute to Black historical figures across the country and the centuries. Poet and professor Joshua Bennett talks with Due South’s Leoneda Inge about his poem “Chapel Hill, North Carolina” for George Moses Horton, the first African American man to publish a book in the South. A version of this conversation originally aired on March 25, 2026.
Joshua Bennett, Professor of Literature and Distinguished Chair of the Humanities at MIT and writer of the new poetry collection "We (The People of The United States)"
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‘New Americans in North Carolina’
An educator and oral historian with the Department of Natural and Cultural Resources talk about "America 250 NC" and their project about “New Americans in North Carolina.” This conversation originally aired May 18, 2026.
Alana Gomez, Educator, America 250 NC, N.C. Department of Natural & Cultural Resources
John Horan, Oral Historian, State Archives of North Carolina, N.C. Department of Natural & Cultural Resources
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July 02 The history of the Triple Nickles; 'The Legend of Wyatt Outlaw;' 'Well, I Declare'
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Sharryse Piggott highlights the ‘Triple Nickles’

WUNC’s Sharryse Piggott spent weeks reporting on the history of the U.S. Army’s first all-Black WWII paratrooper unit. She spoke with the grandson of unit founder Walter Morris about the groundbreaking work the soldiers pioneered. She talks with Leoneda Inge about the ‘Triple Nickles.’ (This conversation originally aired January 9, 2026.)
Sharryse Piggott, WUNC reporter

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A book from UNC Press revives ‘The Legend of Wyatt Outlaw’
For decades, religious groups and everyday community members have gathered in Graham, outside the courthouse, to uplift the name of Wyatt Outlaw. A new book by UNC Press seeks to uncover why Outlaw has been erased from mainstream history books. (This conversation originally aired on January 29, 2026.)
Belle Boggs, author and professor of English at North Carolina State University
Sylvester Allen Jr., writer, composer and director based in Graham, NC. They are co-authors of The Legend of Wyatt Outlaw

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Well, I Declare celebrates 'America at 250,' North Carolina style
A new production reimagines the Declaration of Independence, as part of a nationwide series of 'America at 250' celebrations. (This conversation originally aired on April 8, 2026.)
Dawn Landes, singer, songwriter and Mike Wiley, playwright, actor, assistant professor of Research and Arts, Ethics and Education at Duke University
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July 01 History writers and a local chef add their reasons, and hesitations, for celebrating America 250
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Former This American Life producer Sarah Vowell shares the history of Revolutionary War icon, the Marquis de Lafayette
Vowell was an early contributor to This American Life, before she became a voice actor, and the author of several books.
She shares the story of the Marquis de Lafayette’s triumphant and celebratory return to the United States in 1824-25 as the only living general on the side of the American Revolution.
Sarah Vowell, was a longtime contributor to This American Life, the voice actor for Violet in the Disney animated series The Incredibles, and is the author of “Lafayette in the Somewhat United States.”
A version of this conversation originally aired in April 2026.

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‘John Chavis: Quiet Leader of an Early Revolution’
A preacher, teacher and Revolutionary War veteran, John Chavis was a free Black man in North Carolina born a century before Emancipation.
Today, we’ll hear about John Chavis’ huge influence and impact, despite the walls built to block him. And how at the end of his life, his livelihood was taken away from him as the rights of free Black men in North Carolina were seized after Nat Turner’s Rebellion.
Ben Justesen, writer, and author of chapter “John Chavis: Quiet Leader of an Early Revolution” in the University of North Carolina Press book North Carolina’s Revolutionary Founders

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Chef Ricky Moore represents the South for America 250
Durham chef Ricky Moore sits down with Leoneda Inge to chat what America means to him. Moore was in a group of four chefs who made food for a “Taste of America” celebration by the National Archives Foundation.
Ricky Moore, James Beard award-winning chef, the creator and owner of The Saltbox Seafood Joint in Durham, and represented the American South for a celebration of the nation’s 250th anniversary
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