Zach has the honor of speaking with Dr. Jonathan Metzl, a psychiatrist and author of "Dying of Whiteness," about the concept of just that. Dr. Metzl shares a bit about his professional training, he and Zach delve into why he chose that title for his latest book, and they confront a couple criminally unjust ways in which black and brown people are classified in relation to their white counterparts. Check the links in the show notes to check out Dr. Metzl's books and more!

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