The Dyslexia Duo: Pete Bowers on Structured Word Inquiry: Making English Spelling Make Sense for Dyslexic Learners

Melissa Dean and Aimee Rodenroth of the Dyslexia Duo podcast interview Pete Bowers, a former grades 3–6 teacher who began using Real Spelling in 2001 and later developed work in Structured Word Inquiry (SWI) through graduate study with John Kirby in Kingston, Ontario. Bowers describes his own history as a slow reader and poor speller and explains how SWI transformed his understanding by teaching English orthography as an ordered system that links spelling with meaning and pronunciation, rather than relying on memorization or syllabification strategies that can be misleading and shame-inducing for struggling students. Using examples such as “real/really/reality,” “act/actor/acting/action,” and “maybe” as “may + be,” he argues that many spelling questions cannot be solved through phonology alone and that word matrices and word sums provide essential “combinatorial guardrails” and enable falsification of common misconceptions such as the “TION suffix” and a “ti digraph” in words like “action” and “question.” He discusses statistical learning, orthographic memory challenges associated with dyslexia, loanwords (e.g., French spellings), and how spelling-meaning correspondences can relieve shame and improve motivation. Bowers recommends beginning accurate orthographic concepts early (including with kindergarten), using techniques like spelling out orthography and word-family inquiry to build automatic, integrated representations of spelling, meaning, and pronunciation. The episode concludes with resources from Dr. Bowers (websites, YouTube, TEDx talk, courses, and a free weekly SWI digital drop-in) and guidance on integrating SWI with existing structured literacy/Orton-Gillingham programs by adding explanations that reflect how the writing system works.

00:42 Meet Pete Bowers: from struggling speller to Structured Word Inquiry

03:07 Reading vs spelling: why production is harder than recognition

04:17 The “really” breakthrough: matrices, word sums, and ending spelling shame

11:50 Loanwords & orthographic memory: why “exceptions” aren’t really exceptions

18:36 SWI isn’t just morphology: teaching the full orthography system

21:56 Statistical learning, attention, and the myth of the “TION suffix”

29:20 Hands-on demo: ACT → actor/acting/action (falsifying the “ti” digraph)

36:19 Combinatorial guardrails: graphemes, morphemes, and why T can say /sh/

50:57 When to start SWI: building an accurate schema from the very beginning

56:44 Classroom-friendly decodables: Tumbleweed’s distraction-free design

57:04 Sponsor spotlight: Discovery Dyslexia Services therapy, evaluations & advocacy

58:04 From “replay” to word meaning: spotlighting morphemes, suffixes & etymology

01:00:49 The “Play” word-family game: tapping graphemes and building a base

01:08:04 Homophones aren’t “crazy”: why meaning drives spelling consistency

01:09:44 Why two cues aren’t enough: triangulating spelling with meaning (and the “maybe” story)

01:14:05 When to teach word origins: Wonder Wall questions & the calculus analogy

01:17:40 Live word investigation: breaking down CONVENIENCE with connecting vowel letters

01:28:18 Teacher takeaways: schema shift, does/do, and SWI resources to keep learning

01:37:44 Integrating SWI with OG programs: “spell it out” to trigger self-correction

01:43:45 Final challenge: EXORBITANT, orbit as the base, and ending shame in learning

01:50:32 Wrap-up

The Dyslexia Duo: Dr. Tracy White Weeden

In this episode of 'The Dyslexia Duo,' hosts Melissa Dean and Aimee Rodenroth sit down with Dr. Tracy White Weeden, the former president and CEO of Neuhaus Education Center and founder of Upstream Education for All.

Dr. Weeden shares her journey and passion for literacy, emphasizing the transformative power of reading and the need for systemic change in education. She highlights the importance of vision, community collaboration, and strategic partnerships in addressing dyslexia and promoting literacy. The conversation explores various strategies for engaging parents, supporting educators, and improving literacy outcomes for all students.

00:00 Introduction to the Dyslexia Duo Podcast

00:44 A Chance Meeting with Dr. Tracy White Weeden

01:35 Dr. Tracy's Journey and Insights on Literacy

03:52 Challenges and Solutions in Dyslexia Education

05:45 The Role of Nonprofits and Community in Literacy

09:04 Innovative Approaches to Literacy and Education

41:21 The Importance of Parental Involvement

48:12 Looking Ahead: Future Trends in Dyslexia Instruction

48:22 The Importance of University Partnerships

49:46 State Departments and Technical Assistance

50:20 Inspiration and Community Engagement

52:01 Relevance in Education

53:52 The Role of Business and Community in Education

56:33 The New Definition of Dyslexia

57:58 Challenges and Opportunities in Dyslexia Advocacy

01:04:44 Upstream Education and Nonprofit Initiatives

01:09:23 Speed Round: Personal Insights and Reflections

01:20:36 Final Thoughts and Farewell

To find out more about Upstream, check out this link: https://www.drtracywhite.com/nonprofit

Check out Dr. White's podcast here!: https://upstreampodcastwithdrtracywhite.podbean.com/

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