Host Mike Benitez brings the spirit of the Merge in a full court press to discuss Adversary Air—aka Red Air—in a way you’ve never heard. It’s an entertaining journey through the history, policy, technology, strategy, industry, and business of Red Air.

Today’s guests:

* Kevin “Shaggy” Wilson

* Ryan “Stinger” Fishel

* Andrew “Scar” Van Timmeren

* Jeff “Vader” Brandon

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Links

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* Shaggy - Top Aces

* Scar - Blue Force Technology

* Vader - Kodiak Shack Podcast

* Stinger’s F-117 article: Train Like You Fight

* Jared Isaacman’s MiG-29

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Show Notes

(1:28) – Guest Intros

(4:23) – What is adversary air?

(13:15) – the industry

(15:25) – Congress gets involved

(18:54) – how’s it going now (industry)

(22:46) – how’s it going now (fighter pilot)

(34:05) – Top Aces buys F-16s

(39:30) – F-117 red air

(47:08) – adversary drones

(52:07) – the cost of self-supporting adversaries

(55:21) – training is deterrence

(56:18) – training modernization

(1:04:27) – story time