The Pension Confident Podcast

E30: Can money buy happiness? With Ken Okoroafor, Kim Stephenson and Emily Tribe


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For many people diligently building their nest egg, the question of money's link to happiness is a natural one. After all, financial security can reduce a significant source of stress. But can simply having more money guarantee a life filled with joy?

This month on The Pension Confident Podcast we're talking about the age-old question: can money buy happiness? Join our host, Philippa Lamb, and our expert panel as they discuss the relationship between money and happiness.

  • Author and Co-Founder of The Humble Penny and The Financial Joy Academy, Ken Okoroafor;
  • Occupational Psychologist and chartered member of the British Psychological Society, Kim Stephenson; and
  • PensionBee's Head of Culture, Inclusion and Wellbeing, Emily Tribe.

Episode Breakdown:

01:23 At different ages, different things matter

04:10 Does money equal happiness?

06:30 The source of money changes the equation

10:10 Understanding your appetite for risk

13:57 Maslow's hierarchy of needs

16:20 Avoiding lifestyle creep and finding joy

19:10 The marshmallow test

23:13 How can you boost your happiness

Further reading:

To learn more about where you could put your savings, check out these articles and podcasts from PensionBee:

  • Episode 30 transcript
  • 4 reasons why sorting your pension is important for your health
  • Can money buy happiness?
  • E11: How to prepare for a happy retirement
  • E18: How to not run out of money in retirement
  • E25: How to earn more money
  • How much money do you need to retire in the UK?
  • Is it time to find your new career?
  • Making happiness a habit
  • Preparing for retirement checklist
  • Work doesn't have to end at retirement - the over-60s make happy entrepreneurs

Other useful resources:
  • 10 Ways Life Is a Marshmallow Test (Psychology Today)
  • Being richer than your peers can make you happier (Financial Accountant)
  • Does money buy happiness, according to science? (Clearer Thinking)
  • Financial Joy by Ken & Mary Okoroafor (Book)
  • Maslow's Hierarchy Of Needs (Simply Psychology)
  • Pension Calculator (PensionBee)
  • Seligman's PERMA+ Model Explained: A Theory of Wellbeing (Positive Psychology)
  • What Is Loss Aversion? (Psychology Today)

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