In this episode, Jennifer is joined by renowned consultant, keynote speaker, and bestselling author, Dorie Clark, for a conversation about the challenges faced by DEI practitioners, Dorie shares her insights on the importance of personal branding and authenticity in driving change.  Together, Jennifer and Dorie explore the need for a paradigm shift in how DEI is perceived and communicated, focusing on the fundamental principles of civility, respect, and creating a welcoming environment for all. This episode offers actionable ideas for DEI leaders to work smarter, not harder, in their pursuit of building a more inclusive world.