Econ Dev Show Podcast - Economic Development

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Econ Dev Show Podcast - Economic Development episodes

December 22, 2025203: Transit as Economic Development Strategy with Joya Stetson
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, host Dane Carlson talks with Joya Stetson, Community Development Director at the Minnesota Valley Transit Authority (MVTA), about how transit directly shapes workforce access, development costs, and long-term community competitiveness.
Joya unpacks “first mile/last mile” barriers and how tools like microtransit and service tweaks can turn missed connections into real outcomes, including route changes that unlocked student internships and boosted ridership.
They dig into suburban realities like coverage vs. ridership, post-COVID recovery, and why transit belongs inside RFP workforce narratives, land-use planning, and even parking requirement conversations.
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10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Get your transit provider “at the table” early for major projects, not after the announcement, so service planning can match real hiring needs.
Treat “workforce access” as more than unemployment rates: explicitly describe how transit expands the labor pool and reduces absenteeism and turnover risk.
Audit first-mile/last-mile gaps for key job centers, campuses, and training sites; don’t assume a route nearby means people can actually reach it.
Use microtransit strategically to bridge gaps, but pair it with fixed routes when predictable arrival times matter (classes, shifts, internships).
Build a “route change wins” pipeline: channel feedback from chambers, employers, schools, and workforce boards into concrete service-change proposals.
Include transit in your site selection/RFP package (especially the workforce section): routes, frequency, last-mile options, and how employers can engage.
Coordinate transit with land-use planning and TOD goals so comp plans and transit plans evolve together instead of living on shelves.
Use transit to reduce development friction: make the case for lower parking requirements where transit access supports it.
Map housing-to-transit-to-jobs (especially affordable housing) to show actual accessibility and to target investments or service pilots.
Frame transit as competitiveness and sustainability: companies care about low-carbon performance, and mobility options are part of that story.
Special Guest: Joya Stetson.
Sponsored By:
Sitehunt: Sitehunt gives economic developers both AI-powered site selection software and a team of experts ready to do the work for you.
Schedule a demo at sitehunt.io/demo.
Links:
Joya Stetson | LinkedIn
MVTA
Public Transportation Facts - American Public Transportation Association
Economic Impact of Public Transportation Investment
33 min
December 15, 2025202: How Community Colleges Power Statewide Economic Development with John Loyack
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, host Dane Carlson sits down with John Loyack of the North Carolina Community College System to unpack what “workforce development” looks like when you’re the person who gets the call the day after the ribbon cutting asking where the next 500–5,000 workers will come from—and how North Carolina answers that question through four major tools: NC Edge customized training, ApprenticeshipNC, the Bio Network (now stretching from life sciences into food/beverage and natural products), and a small business center network embedded across 58 community colleges, all while pushing for tighter collaboration so employers experience one connected system instead of disconnected silos.
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10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Treat workforce development as core infrastructure, not a support function.
Engage community colleges early, not after a project announcement.
Promote customized training programs aggressively to prospects and existing employers.
Use pre-hire assessments to reduce employer risk on major projects.
Encourage employers, even competitors, to collaborate on shared talent needs.
Leverage apprenticeship programs beyond manufacturing into healthcare, construction, and trades.
Think regionally, not jurisdiction by jurisdiction, when building talent pipelines.
Repurpose successful training models across industries where skills overlap.
Break down silos between workforce, small business, and economic development teams.
Communicate these resources constantly because most businesses do not know they exist.
Special Guest: John Loyack.
Sponsored By:
Sitehunt: Sitehunt gives economic developers both AI-powered site selection software and a team of experts ready to do the work for you.
Schedule a demo at sitehunt.io/demo.
Links:
NCEdge | NC Community Colleges - NCCCS
John C. Loyack | LinkedIn
N.C. Community College System Reports Strong Year for Flagship NCEdge Customized Training Program
Exclusive | Aerospace Startup JetZero to Start Building Futuristic Planes in North Carolina - WSJ
How community colleges are fueling N.C.’s workforce, with John Loyack
27 min
December 08, 2025201: Why Electricity Decides Everything Now in Economic Development with Timothy Comerford
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Timothy Comerford of Biggins Lacey & Shapiro about the rapidly shifting reality of power availability in site selection.
Tim explains how explosive demand from data centers and industrial users is overwhelming electric utilities, reshaping incentive policy, and lengthening timelines for securing capacity. He breaks down the biggest misconceptions around power lead times, why transmission is often the bottleneck, how utilities are adapting with costly engineering studies and take-or-pay requirements, and what steps EDOs must take to credibly position their sites.
This is a masterclass on the new electricity-driven geography of economic development.
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Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Build strong, direct relationships with utility contacts who will actually talk to prospects.
Understand that real timelines for securing large loads run in years, not months.
Work with utilities to pre-identify transmission routes and right-of-way feasibility.
Gather realistic load estimates from prospects instead of just taking their engineer's peak numbers.
Know whether your sites already sit near substations with real remaining capacity.
Incorporate redundancy needs early, since 100 percent backup can double infrastructure requirements.
Prepare for developers who request huge speculative loads and learn how to differentiate serious projects.
Recognize that incentives tied to data centers may face political pressure due to ratepayer impacts.
Push utilities and state partners to invest in long-range planning that anticipates industrial and data center growth.
Educate local stakeholders that modern site readiness now includes power readiness as a top priority.
Special Guest: Timothy Comeford.
Sponsored By:
Sitehunt: Sitehunt gives economic developers both AI-powered site selection software and a team of experts ready to do the work for you.
Schedule a demo at sitehunt.io/demo.
Links:
Market Update: The Growing Demand for Data Centers
Tim Comerford | LinkedIn
Biggins Lacy Shapiro & Co.
Timothy R. Comerford | BLS & Co.
25 min
December 01, 2025200: How Colorado Springs Competes Globally with Johnna Reeder Kleymeyer
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Johnna Reeder Kleymeyer, President and CEO of the Colorado Springs Chamber and EDC, about how Colorado Springs is uniting its region to compete globally, building on its deep aerospace, defense, and cybersecurity assets, and expanding advanced manufacturing powered by a steady military-to-civilian talent pipeline.
She explains the origin of the Colorado Aerospace and Defense Economic Council, the importance of advocacy for small and mid-sized contractors, how site selection really plays out in a mountain market, and why economic development still matters most at the level of individual opportunity.
From cluster strategy to workforce realities to the joy of cutting a ribbon on a transformational project, Johnna offers insight from a 30-year career building thriving communities.
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Special Guest: Johnna Reeder Kleymeyer.
Sponsored By:
Sitehunt: Sitehunt gives economic developers both AI-powered site selection software and a team of experts ready to do the work for you.
Schedule a demo at sitehunt.io/demo.
Links:
Johnna Reeder Kleymeyer | LinkedIn
Business in Colorado Springs | Colorado Springs Chamber & EDC
One CEO’s Plan To Help Revive Southern Colorado’s Business Development - YouTube
Long-Term Vision with Johnna Reeder Kleymeyer - A Podcast for Chamber Professionals
Johnna Reeder Kleymeyer Of Colorado Springs Chamber & EDC On The Exciting Developments In US High Tech Manufacturing | by David Leichner | Authority Magazine | Medium
Colorado Springs leaders in D.C. to lobby for local interests and look for opportunities
Interview: Johnna Reeder Kleymeyer on Local Business and Economic Growth - Springsmag Colorado Springs
Clean & Safe Pilot Program - Downtown Partnership
So. Colorado Business Digest & CSBJ || AUGUST || 2025 by Colorado Media Group :: NORTH, The Digest/CSBJ & So. Colorado Insider! - Issuu
29 min
November 17, 2025199: How Peer-to-Peer Mentoring Can Transform Local Economies with Martin Vanags
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with economic development veteran and consultant Marty Vanags about Circles of Seven, a peer-based mentoring program designed to strengthen post-startup small businesses who often fall through the cracks of traditional support systems.
Marty explains how C7 groups work, why small businesses learn best from each other, and how these circles create long-lasting bonds that improve BRE, build confidence, and ultimately make communities more attractive to prospects. He also touches on Next Wave Leadership, the importance of in-person connection, and why economic developers should spend more time nurturing the businesses they already have.
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10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Target the "liminal stage" -- businesses past the startup phase but not yet established need the most support and often have the fewest resources.
Build peer-to-peer programs, not just classes -- small businesses learn better from each other than from lectures.
Recruit strong facilitators, not "experts" -- a good mentor is a steady guide, not a guru.
Create predictable monthly prompts (articles, videos, questions) to spark meaningful discussion.
Require at least 30 minutes on the main topic so participants get what they came for.
Train facilitators in group dynamics, not business theory -- their job is to manage conversation, not teach.
Use C7-style programs as BRE tools -- they put you in front of businesses you rarely interact with.
Remember cash flow and time are always the biggest pain points for small businesses.
Encourage in-person interaction -- especially post-COVID, live meetings build deeper relationships and accountability.
Measure success by longevity -- if your groups keep meeting years later, your ecosystem is working.
Special Guest: Martin Vanags.
Sponsored By:
Sitehunt: Sitehunt gives economic developers both AI-powered site selection software and a team of experts ready to do the work for you.
Schedule a demo at sitehunt.io/demo.
Links:
Martin Karl Vanags | LinkedIn
MartinKarl Consulting
Circles Of Seven™ – The Science of Business Mentoring
Next Wave Leadership
The JustBe Newsletter
Hometown Consulting
27 min
November 10, 2025198: Dane With Joe Barker on the Rural Strong Podcast
On this special crossover episode, Dane Carlson joins Joe Barker on the Rural Strong Podcast to talk about Sitehunt, entrepreneurship, and the power of AI to help rural and small-community economic developers compete at scale.
In this episode of Rural Strong, Joe and Dane explore how AI tools like Sitehunt automate site analysis, RFI responses, and data collection — giving small EDOs the same analytical firepower as their big-city counterparts. Dane shares his unlikely journey from early-2000s internet entrepreneur to chamber president in the Sierra Nevada foothills to Texas economic-development director to startup CEO. They discuss why feedback matters more than features, why execution beats ideas every time, and why even the smallest communities need a modern website, a plan, and the willingness to pivot.
Dane also unpacks how child care, housing, and workforce shortages have become the new pillars of competitiveness, why AI is best thought of as a “dim-witted but persistent intern,” and how rural leaders can use technology to take back the information advantage from site selectors.
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Ten Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Treat AI as an intern, not an oracle. Feed it data and context to get useful answers.
Launch before you're ready. Iterate in public and let real feedback drive improvement.
Build a website that sells your community. Clear contact info and photos matter more than fancy graphics.
Use LinkedIn as your industry newspaper. Learn from and connect with other EDOs daily.
Start a local podcast. It's the best modern BRE tool and a non-threatening way to engage businesses.
Plan but pivot. No plan survives first contact with reality; stay nimble.
Address child care and housing head-on. They're workforce issues now, not social ones.
Prioritize execution over ideas. A mediocre idea well executed beats a brilliant idea untried.
Save cash for the long haul. Entrepreneurs fail more often from running out of runway than from bad concepts.
Ask for feedback early and often. It's how both products and communities get better.
Sponsored By:
Sitehunt: Sitehunt gives economic developers both AI-powered site selection software and a team of experts ready to do the work for you.
Schedule a demo at sitehunt.io/demo.
Links:
RuralStrong - YouTube
Dane Carlson | LinkedIn
Sitehunt
Joe Barker | LinkedIn
27 min
November 03, 2025197: Inside IMPLAN: Fifty Years of Economic Impact Analysis with Candi Clouse
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Candi Clouse from IMPLAN joins Dane Carlson to unpack how the fifty-year-old economic-impact platform grew from a U.S. Forest Service project into the industry’s gold standard for analyzing how local and regional economies respond to change. She explains the basics of input-output modeling, how opening a single manufacturing plant can affect hundreds of related industries and household spending, and describes how IMPLAN empowers users to measure those effects in real time.
Candi also shares her personal journey from psychology to economic development, the surprising ripple effects of Ohio’s motion-picture tax credit, and how IMPLAN’s data helps states compare investments, balance urban-rural needs, and plan for reshoring and supply-chain shifts.
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Special Guest: Candi Clouse.
Sponsored By:
Sitehunt: Sitehunt gives economic developers both AI-powered site selection software and a team of experts ready to do the work for you.
Schedule a demo at sitehunt.io/demo.
Links:
Candi Clouse, Ph.D. | LinkedIn
IMPLAN | Economic Impact Analysis Software
IMPLAN - Support
24 min
October 27, 2025196: AI and the Future of Economic Development with Dane Carlson
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, host Dane Carlson shares his talk from the Utility Economic Development Association’s 2025 Fall Forum in Traverse City, Michigan. He explains how artificial intelligence is transforming economic development from a guessing game into a data-driven discipline. Drawing from his work with Sitehunt, Dane reveals how utilities can turn raw infrastructure data like power, water, sewer, and fiber into actionable intelligence that accelerates projects, shortens RFI responses, and drives smarter investment decisions. He challenges listeners to stop optimizing for Google and start optimizing for AI, showing how even small steps like making one dataset machine readable can reshape how regions grow and compete.
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10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Make one dataset machine readable, even if it is internal. It is the first step toward AI readiness.
Think of AI as infrastructure, not a chatbot. Build systems that work continuously, not conversations.
Use APIs to connect your data, automate workflows, and ensure consistency.
Chain models together to combine reasoning, data retrieval, and structured writing capabilities.
Capture tribal knowledge by converting what only a few people know into structured, shareable data.
Automate RFI responses by integrating structured site data with AI models for instant scoring.
Start vibe coding by describing outcomes and intent instead of writing brittle, rigid logic.
Stop optimizing for Google. Design your data for AI systems that synthesize and act.
Run small experiments monthly to test new models and internal automations.
Advocate inside your organization. Utilities are the backbone of AI enabled economic development.
Sponsored By:
Sitehunt: Sitehunt gives economic developers both AI-powered site selection software and a team of experts ready to do the work for you.
Schedule a demo at sitehunt.io/demo.
Links:
Utility Economic Development Association | Utility Economic Development Association
UEDA 2025 Fall Forum | Utility Economic Development Association on Glue Up
AI for Utilities: The Future of Economic Development and Site Selection - YouTube
Dane Carlson | LinkedIn
Sitehunt
20 min
October 20, 2025195: Lessons from One of America’s Great Neighborhoods with 3CDC's Joe Rudemiller
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Joe Rudemiller, Vice President of Marketing and Communications at Cincinnati Center City Development Corporation (3CDC), about how the organization helped turn Over-the-Rhine from a crime-ridden, disinvested neighborhood into one of America’s most celebrated urban communities.
Joe shares how strategic partnerships with the corporate sector, catalytic public spaces, historic preservation, and mission-driven development created a vibrant, mixed-income district filled with local businesses and active civic life.
He also discusses how programming, special improvement districts, and community initiatives like GeneroCity 513 and fair-chance hiring continue to strengthen the fabric of downtown Cincinnati — and what lessons other cities can apply to their own revitalization efforts.
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10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Partner with the corporate community -- Long-term commitment from anchor companies can provide patient capital and momentum for revitalization.
Start small and scale -- Begin with one corner or block to build early wins and demonstrate what's possible.
Use historic assets as a foundation -- Preserving and reusing historic buildings can anchor revitalization and attract residents and businesses.
Prioritize mixed-income housing -- Transitioning from condos to affordable and workforce housing ensures inclusive growth.
Activate civic spaces -- Programming parks and plazas year-round builds community and safety.
Think beyond real estate -- Manage business improvement districts, events, and outreach to sustain neighborhood vibrancy.
Leverage federal incentives -- Tools like New Markets and Historic Tax Credits can make otherwise infeasible projects work.
Align with city leadership without being bound by it -- A nimble, non-governmental structure can speed decision-making while maintaining alignment.
Invest in social programs -- Initiatives like homeless outreach and fair-chance hiring strengthen community ties and outcomes.
Catalyze private investment -- Public or nonprofit investment can pave the way for private development once confidence builds.
Special Guest: Joe Rudemiller.
Sponsored By:
Sitehunt: Sitehunt gives economic developers both AI-powered site selection software and a team of experts ready to do the work for you.
Schedule a demo at sitehunt.io/demo.
Links:
Joe Rudemiller | LinkedIn
3CDC: Overview | LinkedIn
3CDC
3CDC | Instagram
What's next for 3CDC? These projects could reshape Cincinnati (again)
How Cincinnati Salvaged the Nation’s Most Dangerous Neighborhood - POLITICO Magazine
How 3CDC became a vital redevelopment force
What is 3CDC in Cincinnati? Where does 3CDC get its money?
OTR North: $100 million project lands Cincinnati City Council funds - Cincinnati Business Courier
— Massive $100M 'OTR North' project secures first-phase financing
Over-The-Rhine: Is this a model for urban renewal or a warning sign?
Cincinnati company Paycor moving into Downtown's old Saks building
3CDC unveils proposals for new convention hotel
Cincinnati's Foundry bld. brings upscale offices near Downtown square
Look inside Music Hall after its $143 million, 16-month renovation
26 min
October 13, 2025194: Tackling Systemic Vacancy and Building Equity with Kat Guillaume-Delemar
In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Kat Guillaume-Delemar, President and CEO of the Center for Community Progress, the nation’s only nonprofit dedicated to fixing the systems that lead to widespread vacant, abandoned, and deteriorated properties. Kat shares how systemic vacancy harms communities — from lowering property values and public health to blocking economic opportunity — and explains how policy reform, land banking, and innovative programs can restore vitality and equity to disinvested neighborhoods. Drawing from her deeply personal journey from poverty and trauma to leadership and advocacy, Kat offers inspiring insights and actionable strategies for economic developers seeking to build stronger, more human-centered communities.
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10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers
Shift the language: Avoid stigmatizing terms like "blight" and instead focus on systemic vacancy and its root causes.
Educate first: Increase awareness among policymakers, residents, and stakeholders about how vacancy impacts communities and economies.
Push for policy reform: Support legislation like the Neighborhood Homes Investment Act to close appraisal gaps and incentivize redevelopment.
Leverage land banks: Use land banks as strategic tools to acquire, manage, and repurpose vacant properties based on community priorities.
Think beyond economics: Balance the pursuit of economic growth with improving quality of life and social well-being.
Humanize your approach: Design strategies that prioritize people and communities over tax rolls and property values alone.
Collaborate widely: Work with residents, local leaders, and policymakers to co-create solutions tailored to community needs.
Address inequities: Recognize and combat systemic issues like redlining and inequitable appraisal practices that perpetuate vacancy.
Champion creative placemaking: Transform vacant lots into community assets -- from affordable housing to green spaces -- that restore neighborhood vitality.
Be strategically defiant: Don't shy away from challenging unjust systems; bold advocacy can lead to meaningful change.
Special Guest: Kathleen Guillaume-Delemar.
Sponsored By:
Sitehunt: Sitehunt gives economic developers both AI-powered site selection software and a team of experts ready to do the work for you.
Schedule a demo at sitehunt.io/demo.
Links:
Kat J. Guillaume- Delemar | LinkedIn
Center for Community Progress
Center for Community Progress: Overview | LinkedIn
Center for Community Progress - YouTube
Center for Community Progress | Instagram
Center for Community Progress | Facebook
29 min

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