When Kerstin Pilz found out that her charming husband Gianni had been cheating on her while he was dying and she was taking care of him, she had to decide what to do next (R)

She had fallen madly in love with this Italian man when she was in her 40s.

The two married and began travelling the world together.

Then Gianni suddenly fell ill.

As he was in the hospital undergoing surgery for life-threatening cancer, Kerstin discovered her husband was not the man she thought he was.

Further information

Loving my Lying, Dying, Cheating Husband is published by Affirm Press.

Originally broadcast in June 2024.

This episode of Conversations was produced by Nicola Harrison and presented by Sarah Kanowski.

It explores narcissism, narcissistic personality disorder, infidelity, terminal cancer, caring for your spouse, marriage breakdown, illness, betrayal, grief, writing, origin stories, love, lust, trust, couples counselling, couples therapy. cheating, dying, grief.

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