I was in North Carolina for a quick minute helping launch a start-up, and I had about a 2-hour window on my last night in Raleigh to record a podcast episode with one of the city's best known breweries — Trophy. I visited both their locations — known as little Trophy and big Trophy — and we really hit it off. From as far away as Chicago, I could tell Trophy had something special. Sometimes you can just see it. And my first visit didn't disappoint. Clean, well-fermented beers with character. A great vibe in the pub. And their early, hard-earned success off the back of a 3bbl system is about to get some relief with a new production facility on the other side of the city. So later that night the boys came by the hotel to record. It was the end of a long day of working and drinking, so this one's a bit on-the-fly, but it's such a great conversation with two of the most charming people you'll ever meet.