This week Kate’s got some new skincare prods to recommend, and Doree pares down her enormous lip gloss stash. Plus they discuss new audiobook faves and how they each tackle inbox clutter. Then they’re joined by TV writer and showrunner Sierra Teller Ornelas (Happy Endings, Superstore, Brooklyn Nine-Nine, the upcoming Rutherford Falls) who shares how decorating her office helps her find calm at work, how art can both be a job and self-care, her love of a good spa, and how she incorporates Native voices and perspectives into her work.

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