In this conversation, Curt speaks with Caleb Burns, a mountain guide with extensive experience in adventure sports. They discuss the benefits of living an adventure-based lifestyle, the importance of guiding in outdoor activities, and the unique challenges of mountaineering. Caleb shares personal stories that highlight the significance of listening to one's instincts in the outdoors and emphasizes the value of hiring a guide for safety and logistics. The conversation also touches on the emotional and physical challenges of mountaineering and the rewarding experiences it offers.

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