Kate sets a life-changing boundary with an app blocker and Doree learns a new way to play an old game. Then, ER doctor and author Michele Harper joins them to talk about her book The Beauty in Breaking, why museums and art galleries are a form of her self-care, what she’s learned about self-care from her patients, how patients can advocate for themselves, and what comfortable shoe wear is her go-to in and out of the ER.

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