Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Ep 15: Swingers Discuss Navigating Consent in the Lifestyle and Self-Advocating


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In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad and Brittany dive into the complexities of consent in the lifestyle and how it can vary in different situations with different people; how to advocate for yourself and how misunderstandings can happen. Josie gets raw and vulnerable, sharing a powerful story of misplaced blame and emotional growth; Zack shares how this experience impacted him and their relationship. With laughter, unexpected twists, and lots of light-hearted banter, this episode is both enlightening and entertaining!



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(00:00:00) Consent is situational

(00:01:35) Women like to be pursued

(00:02:48) Partners on different ‘pages’ with PDA

(00:07:17) Asking for a first kiss vs not

(00:09:20) If you’re feeling the vibes, ask

(00:11:07) Reading women can be challenging for men

(00:13:29) Women want to feel safe

(00:14:58) It’s safer to ask for than assume you have consent

(00:17:30) Blanket consent can come with trust

(00:20:56) Different environments can impact consent tolerance

(00:22:29) Coming in the back door…our abs hurt!

(00:23:50) Asking for consent during a play session

(00:26:30) Women feel safe when men ask for consent

(00:28:16) Men get turned on when women ask for consent

(00:31:42) Flip side of consent is advocating for yourself

(00:32:23) Those are not starter cocks

(00:33:20) Turning someone down without killing the vibe

(00:35:58) Issuing a ‘no thank you’

(00:38:23) Advocating for yourself

(00:41:57) Sometimes advocating for yourself is personal

(00:43:23) Advocating for yourself during play

(00:46:03) Experiences in the lifestyle create growth opportunities

(00:49:15) Advocacy is empowering

(00:54:30) You can’t plan for every situation

(00:56:11) The lifestyle is fun yet challenging

(00:57:17) Men in the lifestyle are generally more respectful

(00:59:19) If in doubt, ask for consent 


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