NB: OK, so the names I couldn’t remember in the intro were as follows:

LM is how we all consistently refer to Literary Matters because we are so cool.

James is James Matthew Wilson, who comes up toward the end of the conversation, when I continually complain about him and Ryan and Elijah gently defend him.

Armen is Armen Davoudian, who requires no defense because everybody loves him.

Elisabeth is Elisabeth Clark, David’s wife and Managing Editor of 32 Poems.

Warren is Robert Penn Warren.

See notes below for more.

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Some of the topics mentioned in this episode:

– The YouTube footage of the big Cleveland reading/conference/shouting match: Pt. 1 & Pt. 2

– In Ghostlight by Ryan Wilson

– Newly Not Eternal by George David Clark

– Some Problems with Autobiography by Brian Brodeur

– The last issue of Literary Matters

– The continuation of 32 Poems

– The Sentence by Morri Creech—and my review of same

– Grace Schulman

– Jean Valentine

– Charles Simic

– Fred Chappell

– Stephen Dunn

– Christian Wiman

– Don Share

– Horace ii.10

– J. D. McClatchy

– Little Boats, Unsalvaged by Dave Smith

– Raphael Krut-Landau

– Michael Shewmaker

– Ernie Suarez

– Rosanna Warren

– Alex Pepple

– Lothrop Stoddard

– The nightmarish putto from the Ligotti-esque hotel where I stayed on Brian Brodeur’s recommendation.

– Wiseblood Books

– JMW (see Nota Bene)

– Dappled Things

– Katy Carl

– Bernardo Aparicio Garcia

– Joshua Hren

– Franciscan University Press

– Modern Age

– Catholic Imagination Conference

– Contemporary Catholic Poetry

– The Contemporary Poetry Review

– The Vision of the Soul by James Matthew Wilson

Frequently mentioned names:

– Joshua Mehigan

– Shane McCrae

– A. E. Stallings

– Ryan Wilson

– Morri Creech

– Austin Allen

– Jonathan Farmer

– Zara Raab

– Amit Majmudar

– Ethan McGuire

– Coleman Glenn

– Alexis Sears

– JP Gritton

– Alex Pepple

– Ernie Hilbert

– Joanna Pearson

Other Ratbag Poetry Pods:

Poetry Says by Alice Allan

I Hate Matt Wall by Matt Wall

Versecraft by Elijah Blumov

Ratbag Poetics By David Jalal Motamed

Alice: Poetry Says

Brian: @BPlatzer

Cameron: CameronWTC [at] hotmail [dot] com

Matthew: sleerickets [at] gmail [dot] com

Music by ETRNL

Art by Daniel Alexander Smith