In this episode, Mosh travels to Elkhart, Indiana, to tour Amazon’s first-of-its-kind delivery center built  from mass timber — part of the company’s push to reach net zero carbon by 2040. He sits down with Daniel Mallory, Amazon’s vice president of global realty, to explore how one of the world’s largest companies is rethinking construction, packaging, and delivery in the name of sustainability.Mallory discusses how small customer choices, like combining shipments, can make a massive environmental impact. He also explains how mass timber stacks up against steel and concrete, why Amazon sees sustainability and customer service as inseparable, and how the facility serves as an experiment for testing which of its 40-plus eco-friendly strategies — from low-carbon asphalt and rainwater reuse to electric vans on the road--could scale across Amazon and across the world.

This episode was produced in partnership with Amazon.

Mosheh Oinounou (⁠⁠@mosheh⁠⁠) is an Emmy and Murrow award-winning journalist. He has 20 years of experience at networks including Fox News, Bloomberg Television and CBS News, where he was the executive producer of the CBS Evening News and launched the network's 24 hour news channel. He founded the @mosheh Instagram news account in 2020 and the Mo News podcast and newsletter in 2022.