Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Ep 19: A Swinger Scale: Tens and Twos; Rating, Debating & Taking One for the Team


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In this candid and laugh-filled episode, hosts Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into one of the more infamous phrases in the lifestyle world: 'Ten and Two,' commonly used to describe couples with a significant gap in perceived attractiveness. Your Two Plus Two crew unpacks the term with honesty, humor, and a healthy dose of self-awareness.

They explore the subjective nature of these so-called 'ratings,' acknowledging that everyone’s scale is different—and that beauty (and sexual chemistry) is subjective. The discussion then shifts to the more complex and sometimes divisive concept of 'taking one for the team.' With honesty and differing perspectives, your hosts engage in a thoughtful debate about the dynamics and emotional realities behind the decision to play—especially when attraction isn’t mutual on both sides.


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(00:00:00) A lifestyle term…Ten and Two

(00:01:33) They have to be at least a five

(00:03:49) ‘Ratings’ are subjective

(00:05:33) Peacocking strategy

(00:06:19) We’re here for sex

(00:09:08) Veto rights

(00:11:21) Be honest in your communication

(00:12:37) Ten and Two boggles the mind!

(00:13:17) Primal Sexual Rating 

(00:15:46) How do Tens and Twos get together?

(00:18:11) Compensating factors or traits

(00:19:22) Opportunity and context play a role

(00:20:32) Cowboys…need we say more?

(00:22:41) Not our first choice, but we had fun

(00:25:37) Attraction is initially superficial

(00:27:04) Connecting with people on your ‘level’

(00:28:31) It’s easier to avoid conversations than get into awkward ones

(00:29:17) Fuck off, David Beckham!

(00:32:29) Staying open can pay dividends

(00:33:42) We typically don’t consider anyone below a five

(00:35:00) Easier to create experiences on LS vacations

(00:39:17) Some things aren’t possible with just your partner

(00:41:41) What does ‘taking one for the team’ mean?

(00:46:58) Have we taken one for the team

(00:47:50) If you’re not excited about a play experience…don’t do it!

(00:53:12) Fucking, sex and making love

(00:54:27) Finally! Zack & Josie explain ‘The Smudge’

(00:56:33) A game within the game

(00:57:43) I’d love to be your home run!

(00:59:40) I’m Brittany Bitch

(01:00:08) Zackology

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