Hope Smith is enigmatic. Departing from a very successful modeling career, the beauty entrepreneur led a fairly private life before wedding her husband, billionaire philanthropist Robert Smith. It was in Hope's first pregnancy, the idea sparked to use modeling industry knowledge coupled with her formal background in cosmetic dermatology to formulate the answer to stretch marks. The brand MUTHA was born. Join us as Hope and I discuss the power in investing in yourself while still giving back, dismantling shame around surrogacy, what it means to be a white woman raising Black children, and inadvertently carving out her own identity in founding her skincare line MUTHA.