NB: In a week or two, Brian Platzer and I will be discussing I’m Thinking of Ending Things, the novel and the movie. Read/Watch it now to pre-empt spoilers!

Some of the topics mentioned in this episode:

– James Nguyen’s spoken-word poetry

– My conversation with Austin Allen

– Some very popular very Christian very bad spoken-word poetry on YouTube

– Harry Baker’s spoken-word poetry

– Danez Smith’s poetry, spoken-word and otherwise

– Nate Marshall’s poetry, spoken-word and otherwise

– David Pizarro’s Beats Without Rhymes

– David Brooks’ book The Second Mountain

– Mark Manson’s book The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck

– Will Smith, actor, philosopher

– Plato’s Gorgias

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