Heart Wisdom with Jack Kornfield

Ep. 236 – Sacred Reflections with Brother David Steindl-Rast and Frank Ostaseski


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Jack and the ‘Grandfather of Gratitude,’ Brother David Steindl-Rast, delve into sacred reflections on death, where Buddha meets Jesus, the power of compassion, the positive side of grief, and beyond.

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“The process of grieving that breaks this little heart, which closes itself in itself, opens us to the heart that we all share, the one heart that we all have in common.” – Brother David Steindl-Rast

In this sacred dialogue, Jack, Brother David, and Frank Ostaseski reflect on:

  • How Christianity and Buddhism fit together spiritually
  • The compassionate smile of Buddha meeting the sacred heart of Jesus Christ
  • The positive side of grief: opening to the collective heart
  • Death and grace in both traditions
  • Deconditioning from a difficult mother
  • Harnessing the power of your common sense
  • A funny story about the Pope, and how to awaken to who we already are
  • Jack’s journey to the Temple of the Coconut Monk
  • How to handle pain like a Burmese Master
  • How to forgive yourself and overcome remorse
  • Diffusing suicidal tendencies by cultivating self-compassion
  • Guided meditations and sacred chants from Jack and Brother David


“In a meditative way, one of the big pieces of being able to love, or touch, or open, or live, is really the work of forgiveness, grace, and receiving yourself in all of your complexity and loving.” – Jack Kornfield

“Compassion, loving kindness, and understanding are our true nature, our true state.” – Jack Kornfield

This conversation recorded on 6/30/1988 was originally published on DharmaSeed.

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