Dogs! Kate and Doree start the show by talking about the wonderful dogs in their life and the importance of pets to self-care. Kate talks about the happiness of snuggling her dog Lucy every night and Doree’s started an instagram for her adorable Beau (it's @BeauregardBosch on Instagram and it's a delight).

Then they welcome much-requested guest Aminatou Sow, co-host of the Call Your Girlfriend podcast. She talks about the learning to ask for help after she got cancer, scrubbing as self-care, and being disappointed by Kim Kardashian’s latest ad partnership. Follow her amazing Instagram stories @aminatou.

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