Play Nature Podcast

Ep 27 | Getting Licensing and Risky Play to Fit Together


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Licensing. Not the most exciting topic. Not mud pies or tree climbing. But if you work in schools, parks, or early childhood programs, licensing is part of the landscape. 

In this episode of Play Nature Podcast, host Rusty is answering the question many educators ask: How do we keep nature play, loose parts, and risky play alive when licensing rules feel like a wall? The good news? The wall might actually be a doorway.

Rusty explores the relationship between educators and licensors. At first it can feel tense. Someone arrives with a clipboard. They inspect logs, spoons, mud kitchens, and climbing trees. But licensors are there for a reason. Their job is to protect children. 

When we slow down and communicate the why behind nature play, we often discover we’re on the same team. The key is speaking their language. Know the rules. Show your thinking. Share the research. When educators confidently explain the benefits of loose parts and outdoor play, licensors begin to see the bigger picture.

Top 3 Takeaways from Rusty

  • Know the rules. Read them carefully. When you understand them, you can design nature play spaces that follow them and still invite adventure.
  • Explain the “why.” Share the research and developmental benefits behind logs, mud kitchens, loose parts, and risky play.
  • Build trust. When licensors see thoughtful planning and strong supervision, they are more likely to support creative outdoor play environments.
  • Buy Rusty’s Book: Adventures in Risky Play by Rusty Keeler

    Learn More: rustykeeler.com | @rusty_keeler_designs 

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