Heart Wisdom with Jack Kornfield

Ep. 271 – Diffusing Triggers, Reframing Trauma, and Surviving Suffering with Thomas Hübl, PhD


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Opening the doorway to transformation, Jack and Dr. Hübl explore spiritual discernment, identity, “central casting,” overcoming nervous system triggers, reframing trauma, and more.

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The ‘wisdom of insecurity’ is to learn that it’s okay to feel insecure—that it’s part of our human law—and to love anyway.” – Jack Kornfield

In Part 2 of this episode originally airing for Dr. Hübl’s ‘Spiritual Healing Journey Summit,’ Jack and Thomas mindfully explore:

  • Spiritual community, idealism, disillusionment, and healing spiritual injury
  • Jack’s experience “pressure testing” his teacher Ajahn Chah
  • Trading our “blind faith” for “spiritual discernment”
  • Living in joy with a free heart amidst it all
  • Ram Dass, identity, and “central casting”
  • Seeing past our identities/roles to our Divine Nature while still fully honoring them
  • Reframing “trauma” with Buddha’s lens of suffering
  • Healing the nervous system and it’s triggers
  • Expanding our loving kindness to encompass all beings
  • Walking through the doorway of transformation and dissolving the cosmos into love
  • How to deal with our trauma and learn to live with suffering
  • Reaching out and healing the part of the world we can touch
  • The Bodhisattva vow as fostering the awakening of the heart
  • Opening to the “wisdom of insecurity”


“Spiritual practice is to remember your true divine nature, and also your social security number, your particular role which ‘central casting’ has placed you in at this time.” – Jack Kornfield

"Disillusionment is part of the spiritual path, baby. It is! You have to see with the eyes of the Buddha to see the truth of suffering and greed and hatred, and also see that it's not the end of the story, that that's not who you are." – Jack Kornfield

About Thomas Hübl, PhD:

Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.

He is the author of Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma—and Our World and Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. For more info, books, podcast, and upcoming offerings, please visit thomashuebl.com

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