Doree and Kate recap their first trip together, in which they shared a bed, a cabin, a bathroom with zero sound-proofing, some anxiety, and a stage at The Wing's Camp No Man's Land! Plus, Doree has a very exciting announcement! Kate and Doree also discuss some skincare and makeup products they wanted to love...but didn't. 

Then they welcome Keiko Agena, Gilmore Girls star and author of the new book No Mistakes: A Perfect Workbook for Imperfect Artists. She talks about the growth that comes along with failure and rejection, the challenge of finding social connections in adulthood, and the power of fandom. You can catch Keiko on Instagram (@keikoagena), the new show The First, Better Call Saul, and the upcoming Dirty John series. 

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