It's a podcast crossover episode with Jackie Johnson, the host of Natch Beaut! Jackie talks to Kate and Doree about the difference between vegan and cruelty-free products (and why both are important to her), her current skincare regimen, the importance of cutting toxic people out of your life, and the healing powers of her dog, Chooch. Plus, Kate and Doree get into their latest (cozy) reads and discuss the challenges of pregnancy-related nausea and vomiting during the first trimester.

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Theme music by Riot.

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