If you're a whitewater paddler and you've wondered how the legendary 'Brown Claw' came to be, you'll get the facts in this episode, directly from Dave Fusilli, one of the OG Demshitz.

If you're not a whitewater paddler and that sounds like crazy talk, you'll still want to tune in because Dave tends to bring out the best in people. He seems to effortlessly balance not taking himself too seriously while also being very thoughtful and committed to connection, kindness and kayaking, of course.

In this conversation we explore the themes of discomfort, decision-making, mindfulness, and the power of our spiritual connection to water.

Dave also generously shares how he has been navigating the recent loss of his good friend, and industry icon, Bren Orton.

You'll come away from this episode with inspiration for being more authentically yourself, having more fun, spreading more love and being a little kinder to yourself and others.