Adam rings in the New Year and this time he's not alone. Kitty Martz is the Executive Director of Voices of Problem Gambling Recovery. She's also someone with lived experience and is the Founder of The Lived Experience Collective. After starting over three different times, Kitty has found peace and purpose working in recovery. Adam and Kitty talk about what it means to be "clean now" and how important it is to find your own path. Kitty and Adam explore harm-reduction vs. abstinence and the different ways to combat the expanding accessibility of gambling.