Sweet Jesus, this week's movie might be the smallest, most unheard-of indie film you've absolutely never heard of. Made with cardboard set pieces and definitely shot on an iPhone, Mark and guest Brian Finifter try to make sense of 1995's indie darling: APOLLO 13.

Performers of note: Tom Hanks, Bill Paxton (aww), Kevin Bacon, Gary Sinise, Ed Harris, Kathleen Quinlan.

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