This week, Catie sits down with Alice Crowe in her plant-filled Melbourne home for a chat over tea and marmalade toast. 

Alice is a Botanist, kitchen gardener at Heide Museum of Modern Art, founder of The Lush Forest, president of Growing Farmers and former litigation lawyer who underwent a pretty radical life pivot -- ample inspiration for anyone who’s ever wanted to ‘just quit everything’ to see what happens next.

We talk: pulling the pin on conventional success, the primal energy of the rainforest, boring habits (that make for a beautiful life), can backyard farming feed the world? and things you can’t go to your grave without knowing.

SHOW NOTES

• The journey from litigation lawyer to botany nerd.
• The perils and pure distraction of perpetual busy-ness. 
• When your body says NUP.
• When external metrics of success don’t align with your internal compass.
• Quitting a corporate career without a plan. 
• Taking three months off to do who-knows-what.
• How quickly wellness returns when you Just Stop.
• How a short horticulture course at Burnley College became a Master of Science (Botany).
• Idolising people who wear secateurs on their belt.
• Approaching nurseries as a mature-age assistant with no skills and no experience.
• The joy of pottering around watering geraniums. 
• Realising that the simple, non-intellectual stuff is where it’s at for happiness.
• An epiphany thanks to Ficus elastica.
• How to honour what your heart wants when that’s not necessarily what the world wants.
• Less noise during the pandemic = more clarity.
• Boring habits that facilitate contentment, peacefulness.
• Why being in a tropical rainforest is a primeval, sensory experience.
• Brain explosion! How did we get these amazing plants and universe?
• Things you can’t go to your grave not knowing.
• The delight in the mundane and the magic of dumb questions.
• Why everyone should look at something through a microscope once daily!
• Photosynthesis = SORCERY.
• The story of plant evolution is the story of the earth.
• Why we need more scientific literacy to fight misinformation that hobbles climate action.
• The folly of mental striving. We’ve got what we’ve got. 
• The paradox of changemaking: Is it more effective when you’re not out to succeed?
• Rebecca Solnit.
• The garden of your mental health.
• Meditation as foundation.
• Why true acceptance is truly courageous.
• The myth of the individual, self-sufficient unit.
• No individual can fight a system. How to get on the systems waves with others!
• How Growing Farmers began and how it’s transforming backyards, local food systems, new farmer opportunities and (with any luck) the planet.
• Building non-transactional community relationships.
• Will we go down the tech farming or agroecology road?
• Why all the academic arguments in the world aren’t a substitute for just giving it a go.
• Why shifting our current paradigm and lifestyle is terrifying!
• Practising new systems while things are relatively ‘stable’.
• Talking to kids who are scared about climate change. 

LINKS YOU'LL LOVE

Alice on Insta
The Lush Forest
Heide Museum of Modern Art
Growing Farmers
Rebecca Solnit
Jonathan Lear -- Radical Hope

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