In this deeply moving episode, Kelly sits down with her friend, Barbara Gladieux, to share a conversation about love, loss, and the language of healing. After losing her husband, Ken, to suicide, Barbara turned her grief into advocacy—helping others navigate their own journeys through loss and raising awareness about mental health and suicide prevention.

Together, Kelly and Barbara discuss the power of words like “died by suicide,” the importance of community support, and the value of open, honest conversations about mental illness. Barbara also shares her experience founding a support group in Lynchburg, her children’s continued advocacy work, and how hope and connection can help carry us through unimaginable pain.

This episode reminds listeners that mental illness is an illness—not a choice—and that healing begins when we start talking.

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