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Mrs. Noche Miller thought that I wasn't giving positive reinforcement training and trick training their just due, so she wanted to come on and offer her perspective. She trains horses and cows to do tricks, owns a Guiness World Record for most tricks performed by a cow in one minute (video in the links) and has written a  book and runs a large facebook group on reading horse swirls/whorls. Noche is also a contributor to Horse Tricks 101, a website and facebook group that help people interested in Positive Reinforcement Training to get started.
We talk about her background, and Rusty, the spoiled rescue Morgan gelding that started her on the R+ journey. Noche and I talk about the ins and outs of R+ training. I ask her about some of the claims vs the realities. She talks about the safest ways to go about feeding treats so you don't create a monster.  We get into how she got bored and began teaching tricks to cows in her herd and practical things that cattle owners can do to work their cattle with less stress using R+. She also tells the tale about her Guiness World Record for "Most Tricks Performed by a Cow in One Minute."
Lastly, we talk about whorls in horses. I'm a very public skeptic on this topic. She's got quite a following when it comes to her whorl reading. I do challenge her on this and hope I don't get too much hate mail for it, but she handles herself well. Join us for a nice chat and listen to two adults who disagree and discuss respectfully, as it should be.

You can find her at the following links:

Trick training
horsetricks101.com
https://www.youtube.com/@horsetricks
https://www.facebook.com/horsetricks

cow pages
https://cattletricks101.com/
https://www.facebook.com/CattleTricks101

Whorl pages
horsewhorls.com
https://www.facebook.com/groups/horsewhorls
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100088376709065

Personal page
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064875273446

Daniel's online bit course:
https://thebitcourse.com/