This week, Kate goes on a girls trip to Palm Springs, confesses to sneaking peeks at Twitter, and works on sleep training herself to rise earlier. Doree recaps her time at the BeautyX Summit, revisits some makeup faves, and shares her recent obsession: the Netflix show Sex Education.

Then they welcome illustrator and author, Ann Shen. She talks about becoming an artist later in life, her morning and nighttime skincare routines, her passion for fake eyelashes, and how she deals with hormonal acne. You can find Ann on Instagram at @AnnDanger.

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