Sometimes the most interesting stories start with the “wrong button.” In this episode, Jay Allen dives into a main story about the disconnect that happens when safety programs don’t evolve alongside the culture of an organization.

Too often, companies rely on static checklists and “click-through” programs that exist on paper but never truly embed into daily operations. Jay explores why safety cannot live as a separate program—it has to be woven directly into the culture. Without that cultural integration, programs lack legitimacy and real impact.

This episode challenges you to ask:

• Is your safety program part of the culture—or just paperwork?
• Has your program evolved as your organization has evolved?
• What does it mean to have “culture culture,” instead of splitting safety into its own silo?

Tune in for a candid discussion about evolution, culture, and why embedding safety into the very fabric of an organization is the only way forward.

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