What if the mistake you're dreading is the very thing that sharpens your line?

In this conversation, I sit down with Deborah Kane—founder of Rally Crew, a new "online eddy" for whitewater paddlers—to talk about launching big ideas, running big rapids, and staying human when the outcome isn't guaranteed.

From walking away from months of work to the power of one person saying "I'd bet on you," Deborah offers an honest, practical playbook for courage and connection.

Why listen 🧭 Discomfort as a compass: Turn "I don't know if this will work" into forward movement.

👥 Crew that's truly invested: What supportive looks like (beyond "just follow me").

🧪 Mistakes = momentum: The Rally Crew pivot—and why the "wrong turn" made the final product stronger.

💪 Confidence you can practice: Collect evidence for your self-belief and ask for help (yes, that's a skill).

🎛️ Control the controllables: Manage variables, then—when it's time—be all in.

🌊 Paddling parallels that land: Hard moves in easy water, relationship with the river, and resilience in real life.

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