Some of the topics mentioned in this episode:

– Traci’s new poetry collection, Restricted Movement, featuring paintings by her dad, Tommy O’Dea

– The Kit-Kat Klock

– Reading for a magazine

– Form vs. free verse

– Mimesis is born, not made

– Casual Britishisms

– How to pronounce “Appalachian”

– Art vs. artists

– Metaphysical sex poetry

– Famous British poets love to help high school students cheat on their exams

– The Prodigal Son every week!

– Lear is funny

– Shtick and the teen pop sex icon

– Pandering to the patriarchy

– “…performatively dead eyes…”

– A doting New York Times piece on Billie Eilish

– British Vogue’s debut of a new Billie Eilish

– A scornful New York Times piece on Billie Eilish

– The HBO of influencers

– The Black Mirror episode “Nosedive”

– Marina Abramovic is a good performance artist

– Olly Eley’s (lightly ghostwritten) self-introduction

– Dad brain

– Traci’s forthcoming poetry collection Waving

Find Traci online at traciodea.com and follow her on Instagram and Twitter @traciodea

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