For a special edition of the podcast, we hear a conversation between Jason and Andrew Keen on his KeenOn podcast.

They discuss: is the American Dream Dead? Can you truly reinvent yourself in the US compared to Europe? And is there still hope for America going forward? 

Producer: George McDonagh 

Executive Producer: Neil Fearn 

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Show Notes Links: 

To get tickets to our RUSI event on 14th May visit: https://my.rusi.org/events/disorder-podcast-live-ordering-the-global-financial-disorder.html  

Get the KeenOn podcast at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/keen-on-america/id1448694012  

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