Double the guests, double the fun! As Conan and Josh have on Joe Cardamone of the Icarus Line and Michael Grodner, filmmaker beyond the upcoming (sorta) biopic: The Icarus Line Must Die.

17:05 Michael Grodner

57:10 Joe Cardamone

Michael Grodner:

-The Jim Jarmusch Black and White Aesthteic.

-It’s not a documentary

-darkness following the band.

-relating to creative pursuits

-art vs. commerce, subtly

-Jerry Stahl’s book-on-vinyl

-Keith Morris

–Dirty Laundry (TV!)

-the Hell of fundraising vs. actually making a movie.

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Joe Cardamone

-Starting the film having no idea what was going on

-Dialogue that sounds like one person (aka: Sorkin-speak)

-Gimme Danger the movie: a missed opportunity

-Some Kind of Monster: Best thing ever

-Music’s marketability and it’s inextricable ties to youth culture

-not taking advantage of making a “comeback”

-Eastbound & Down

-Scott Weiland’s death and the last Icarus Line’s last show

-Getting real life in the movie

-Metallica in a Bob Log style

-How to get to the solo record

-“Do whatever you want. No one’s going to hear it, who gives a fuck?”

-Sounding good next to Gucci Mane