In this 13th session, Bashar, as channeled by Andrew, explains about the inherent equality that exists between all states of consciousness, including our own and theirs. He explains that the most conducive mindset to have eventual face-to-face interactions is the mindset of equality, and the granting of complete validity to all expressions of consciousness. He reminds us that when we are reliant on them, we are not treating ourselves as equal to them, instead placing them above us, and this more limited mindset of incompleteness will not be likely to ultimately result in face-to-face interactions.He elaborates how it would look for one to act as an equal. Lastly, he speaks about the underlying inherent spirituality in all things, even the material, and draws the comparison suggesting that we can begin seeing and treating our materiality as a spiritual expression in and of itself.