In this wide-ranging episode, Eric Kaiser and Bill Spohn welcome longtime HVAC pro and educator Adam Mufich to the podcast. Adam shares his unique path through the industry—from growing up in a third-generation HVAC family and starting his own company, to becoming a trainer at the National Comfort Institute (NCI). The trio dives into how social media unexpectedly played a pivotal role in Adam's professional growth, helping him connect with future collaborators through YouTube live streams and online forums.

They explore Adam's evolution into technical writing and training, his thoughts on public speaking, and what it's like to work alongside industry veterans like David Richardson and Jim Davis. A significant portion of the conversation is dedicated to NCI's new initiatives, including the upcoming High-Performance Heat Pump Retrofit class and the ComfortMax workflow integration with MeasureQuick, which aims to automate performance diagnostics for greater accuracy and efficiency.

They also discuss:

• Why real-world hands-on training matters

• The importance of airflow and static pressure measurement

• The philosophy behind "If you're not measuring, you're just guessing"

• How modern tools like MeasureQuick elevate technician performance

• Upcoming NCI Summit (Sept. 9–12 in Texas) and member benefits

Whether you're a seasoned tech, a contractor, or someone just entering the trade, this episode underscores the importance of staying curious, embracing new technology, and building community within the HVAC industry.

"If you're not measuring, you're just guessing." – NCI Philosophy

"Better precision tools won't replace you—they'll help you up your game." – Adam Mufich

"I'll never know everything about HVAC. That's why I keep learning every day." – Adam Mufich

Adam'sLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-mufich-5225055a/

NCI website: www.NCIhvac.com or https://www.nationalcomfortinstitute.com/pro/

The NCI Store on TruTechTools: https://trutechtools.com/nci-store.html

Find an NCI contractor: https://www.myhomecomfort.org/find-a-contractor/

NCI Consumer site: https://www.myhomecomfort.org/

NCI Summit Link: https://www.gotosummit.com/

NCI Membership details: https://www.nationalcomfortinstitute.com/membership/

Adams's first episode with us, EP112: https://www.buildinghvacscience.com/ep112-being-humble-persistent-and-curious-in-the-trades-with-adam-mufich-march-2023/

This episode was recorded in June 2025.