In this episode of the Building HVAC Science Podcast, Eric Kaiser and Bill Spohn welcome longtime HVAC instructor Michael Uselof, who shares his remarkable journey from answering a humble job ad in 1983 to becoming a passionate educator with the United Association (UA). Michael reflects on the value of learning through hands-on experience, the evolution of HVAC technology, and the crucial role training plays in creating resilient, adaptable tradespeople.

Michael shares stories from his early days wiring supermarkets and living above the shop, to teaching thousands of apprentices over two decades. He also dives into the shifting landscape of the HVAC world—from electrification efforts in New York to new refrigerants and the importance of teaching logic, not just facts. The conversation takes a heartfelt turn as Michael speaks to the emotional and mental demands of the service trade, encouraging listeners to seek help when needed and sharing the significance of community and ongoing education in staying strong and skilled.

We don't just teach a trade—we teach a career that changes lives." – Michael Useloff

"Facts become data, data becomes knowledge, and wisdom is knowing what to fix."

"If it doesn't make you tick, you might want to pick a different field."

Mike's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-useloff-9a980a90/

UANJ: www.UANJ.org

UA - national: www.UA.org

This episode was recorded in July 2025.