Grover Burthey, Head of ESG Portfolio Management at PIMCO and Richard Mattison, President at S&P Global Sustainble1 joined Joe Cass on this edition of Fixed Income in 15. Discussion focused on PIMCO's priorities in the ESG investing space, growth of the S&P Global Sustainable1 division and the challenges ESG presents market stakeholders. There was also time to discuss Grover's experience in the U.S Government, how Richard moved from Neuroscience to ESG and the duo's professional role models.