Adam talks with British writer, actor and comedian Jonny Sweet about class, shame, not feeling at home in your own skin and other themes in his debut novel The Kellerby Code, as well as how promoting a book encourages authors to make up a load of bullshit about the themes in their books. Adam and Jonny also swap news of ailments and an unsettling Shiatsu experience, and in the outro, Adam talks in a queasily sincere way about what the late Beach Boys mastermind Brian Wilson meant to him.

Conversations recorded in London on 12th November, 2024 and 29th April, 2025

Thanks to Séamus Murphy-Mitchell for production support and additional conversation editing.

Podcast illustration by Helen Green

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