We'd signed off. Thanked everyone. Sam Daish was probably ready to start his day in Auckland, and we were wrapping up what had already been a dense conversation about AI in sales. But then Chris started talking about something he calls "micro pivoting" - those split-second adjustments that separate elite salespeople from everyone else - and none of us wanted to hang up.

What followed was Chris dissecting the athletic nature of top sales performance, using Cherryl Turner's cold calling mastery as a case study. The insight about how elite reps make tiny voice and timing adjustments that most of us would never notice, and how those microscopic moments determine whether a conversation continues or dies. This wasn't planned content - it was pure discovery happening in real time, the kind of conversation that makes you realize the real secrets are hiding in plain sight.

Sometimes the best episodes happen when you think you're done recording.