On March 6, 2026, Francis Chan released a public apology titled "Tremble at His Words, Be Careful with Your Own." In it, he addresses his associations with leaders in the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), including Mike Bickle and IHOPKC. But does this apology truly address the root of the problem, or does it sidestep the real issues and dangers?

In this special audio-only episode of the podcast, Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett (joining from the Florida Everglades!) break down Chan’s letter and the accompanying statement from his network elders.

We dive deep into:

The "Integrity" Gap: Was Mike Bickle a man of integrity who "fell," or was the foundation flawed from the start?

"Fooled Hundreds of Times": Analyzing Chan’s admission of a lack of discernment and what that means for his role as a globally influential leader.

The Elder’s Defense: Why claiming "refutation" of NAR accusations is factually incorrect and misleading to the church.

The Prophetic Movement: Why a focus on character scandals ignores the deeper crisis of fallible prophecy and theological error.

A Call to Action: Will Chan ever give us the biblical criteria for evaluating prophets?

Resources Mentioned:

-Francis Chan’s Letter: Tremble at His Words, Be Careful with Your Own (Crazy Love Ministries)

https://www.crazylove.org/articles/tremble-at-his-words-be-careful-with-your-own

-Holly’s Blog: hollypivec.com

-The Implosion of IHOPKC: https://www.hollypivec.com/blog/implosionofihopkc

-Books by Holly Pivec and Doug Geivett: Counterfeit Kingdom, God's Super-Apostles, and more.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=holly+pivec+and+doug+geivett&crid=2B4DQ2AUNRY85&sprefix=holly+pivec+and+doug+geivett%2Caps%2C216&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

Timestamps: 00:00 – Introduction & Background on Francis Chan

04:46 – Framing the Apology: "Those who no longer walk in integrity"

15:10 – The avoidance of addressing "false teaching" in the apology

21:47 – The stunning admission of being "fooled hundreds of times"

35:34 – Analyzing the Elders’ Statement

52:40 – Can a "legitimate" prophet be fallible?

1:10:00 – Unity vs. Truth: Final thoughts and closing wisdom

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